Fucks sake.

Feel like Drogba in 2009

I know its a disappointing result, but can we not at least pretend to be happy for @profk’s grandad?

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He did several comedy jumps out his seat, spent the game commenting on where he would have placed a pass or shot had he been on the pitch, and the jacket came off around the 60 minute mark <3

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Isn’t that what everyone does?

Veratti’s the only one that has anywhere near my level of vision, at the moment.

Jack Wilshere.

Made. Of. Glass.

idk, its funnier because he’s old, and was absolutely terrible at football when he was younger.

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Not sure I can handle another real - atletico final. Dont think I’d bother watching. At least we get to watch the good guys tonight

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The Vidal red was just an awful decision. Sooner we get video replays the better IMO.

Shh, ffs mate

Seeming as these decisions always go against Manchester United Football Club, I’m sure the introduction of such technology will soon see us returned to the top of the tree.

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Got as far as scanning ā€œRonaldo hat-trick, controversial refereeing display, Real Madrid throughā€ and got all angry at the accompanying photo of that gormless, grinning prick and couldn’t be bothered reading any more.

In other #29DreamNews, last night I came up with the idea that a referee can issue a ā€œblack cardā€ for an incident where ā€œhe knows something naughty has gone on, but kinda missed itā€. No punishment at the time, but the player is suspended for his next match. :laughing: Mental.

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I didn’t see this specific incident, but the thing is, with video replays you’re still reliant on one man’s judgement. It’s not unusual for two pundits to look at the same incident half a dozen times and not be able to agree.

And how do you bring it in? Do you bring it in for every decision or just penalties? How do you use them? Do you have to wait for a break in play? If not, what’s to stop a team using a review tactically to stop a counter-attack by their opponent. Do you give each team 3 reviews per half as in Cricket or Tennis and if a review is successful they keep it? Or is it at the referee’s discretion to review decisions they are unsure of?

In all other sports, video replays are used to determine an outcome based on definite outcomes like grounding the ball for a try in Rugby, the ball landing in or out in Tennis, whether the ball pitched outside leg stump in Cricket. So many decisions in football are down to judgement and interpretation, I really don’t think video replays are going to help stop controversy as much as some believe.

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Yup, video refs will be properly shit if they ever come in for anything that is still a matter of interpretation. I can half see the argument for them for offsides but even then, the implementation of them would be very difficult.

As much flak as the 5th and 6th officials get, I genuinely think it’s a numbers game for the most part, get a few more officials in key positions and ensure proper communication between all of them

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with video technology Bayern would have gone through

also, if they hadn’t missed a penalty in the first leg

poor old Vidal

In every other sport there are grey areas and debatable points, or camera angles don’t pick up everything or whatever. Football isn’t unique in that regard. And in every other sport with video referees the standard is that the referee will give a decision and then the video ref requires definite evidence to overturn that decision. Think that would work for football. Obviously it would need to wait for a break in play to be reviewed, and I’d suggest having a system like in American Football where each manager can use x amount of (unsuccessful) reviews per game (by signalling to the fourth official who then prompts the ref to stop at the next break in play) or by the ref if there’s a decision he’s unsure of.

It works, every sport has it’s own set of challenges but it has improved every sport it’s been introduced in, sometimes after some teething problems. Football won’t be any different

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I think a 3 reviews a la cricket/tennis would be fine for definite outcomes such as reviewing a goal for offside

it’s tricky with cards though aye but the number of really nasty tackles that go unpunished (Bale & Barkley being recent examples) does increase the likelihood of players getting injured - not sure if/how video reviews would change that

a yellow for abuse of review? Like you get for simulation/diving?

The issue is every sport it’s been introduced to has natural breaks which allow for a review to happen. This isn’t the case for good ol’ Association Football

Lots of things here:

  • Pundits aren’t officials and don’t know the rules to the letter. Of course, sometimes it’s difficult even with replays but 9 times out of 10 Uncle Howard in the studio can straighten things out!
  • Obviously not for every decision. You use it for challenging offside goals and red card offences. Major decisions that change the game. It’s not removing all controversy but reducing it somewhat
  • Possibly could use the ā€œchallengeā€ system. While it seems foreign now, I think it could work. Each team gets to challenge 3 decisions. This wouldn’t take much longer and would be more civilized than them all crowding around the ref for 2 minutes trying to influence his decision.

It was only a couple of years back most people thought goal line technology would ruin the game.

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yes (it is)

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No it’s not, remember when Paul Ince was waiting to come on for England against Italy for about 8 minutes or something and the game didn’t stop once?