In notorious where he reads word up magazine, salt n pepa and heavy d up in the limousine and it turns out it was all a dream

No one else has seen Orphan then? Couple adopt a nine year old girl, who turns out to be a bad un, killing nuns and the like. But then she further turns out to be a grown woman who has proportional dwarfism and is just pretending to be a little girl so she can get busy with the murdering. The very best thing is that the girl has the same name as my TV, and so I had lots of fun repeatedly pointing at the poster with it’s "There’s something wrong with [XXXX] tagline.

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I paid money to see Orphan in the cinema. 5 star plot.

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john woo’s blackjack: dolph lundgren plays a cia agent or something (called jack, natch) who has a phobia of the colour white. he has a shootout at a dairy farm and when it gets flooded the baddie goes “what’s the matter jack, too white for ya?” and dolph replies “nooo, i’m lactose intolerant” 10/10

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I always assumed this was Jeremy’s Iron revealing his location by accident, rather than by Bruce being clever. Still leaves the film relying on the odd concept of hotels labelling their aspirin bottles, but it helps somewhat.

thought that was p. good

Obvs not clicking the spoiler but I am very excited about seeing this! :grinning::grinning::grinning:

so (and @steved) the writer was asked to come up with a new ending for Die Hard 3 because his original one was too dark. This point is where I usually stop watching and in the commentary he explains that he doesn’t think it’s a great ending but this was all he could really come up with to tie into the rest of his script.

The original ending is on the DVD

and as you see it is dark: John is blamed for being in league with him and is messed up.

The writer also says he wanted an ending based around the the suitcase with the bombs. Remember the henchman who is told to take it away in case some kids find it? In this ending Irons’s character would be seen on his plane escaping and then he would reach for his briefcase but instead open the explosives one. Then he’d just say calmly,

“Has anyone got a 4 gallon drum?”

Before you see the plane explode.

so yeah it’s a stupid ending but at least the writer agrees, I guess!

I haven’t seen this Serenity but I have listened through to the How Did This Get Made podcast tear-down and it was great. It sounds truly terrible, yeah.

feel like they just couldn’t commit to the premise of a child being pure evil or being punched by Vera Farmiga

Yeah I agree. Identity always got a huge amount of hate online when it came out but I too enjoyed it. See also that film with Ray Wise when they’re driving forever (Wrong Turn I think maybe?)

I think with these sorts of ‘shocker’ films you just have to accept they’ll be ridiculous at a fundamental level because they are basically a non-gory/vicious offshoot of horror, right?

I love The Prestige but no matter how you interpret it, it’s one of the most utterly ridiculously built plots ever.

aha i think i know what film you’re referring to there. this?

i seem to remember enjoying it.

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Ah yes! Wrong Turn is another one that I don’t think I saw, possibly starring Eliza Dushku, and I couldn’t remember which name to use.

yes, same year, Dushku in place

Fincher is a fan of this sort of thing. The premises / twists in The Game and Panic Room are both totally ridiculous. I love them both, though. Excellent modern Hitchcock stuff.

Face/Off is the ultimate

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spoilers for what? all the films?

I didn’t realise they covered it! Will have to listen. Good podcast that.

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oh wait, this is the trailer I see all the time on youtube

Saw Last Christmas tonight. That twist is indeed quite something. The best part is after it happens the film just sort of winds down as if it has no idea what to do next. There’s a talent show for some reason which should be the grand finale in any other film but it just sort of happens? Then Emma Thompson does a bit more of her dodgy Eastern European accented singing and we’re done. Also the twist makes no logical sense whatsoever no matter how many Fight Club-esque LOOK SHE WAS ON HER OWN THE WHOLE TIME! scenes they show. It’s just a mess.

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