Acid attacks


#1

Don’t know if it’s a product of media coverage but these seem to be happening more and more often - last night there were five in a single evening around Hackney. I’m not usually freaked out by crime stories, but something about the idea of this really gets to me. Do you think legislation will change to make it harder to get hold of?


#2

It’s caustic soda that’s mainly being used right? I’ve always thought it’s pretty nuts that you can just stroll into a shop and buy something as dangerous as that without any precautions in place.


#3

I hope so! A lot of the targets are people in headscarves recently, I worry for my relatives who are visibly Muslim. People are sharing on WhatsApp what to do if it happens to you or someone you’re with :slightly_frowning_face:


#4

Any regulation of corrosive substances would need to be pretty widespread. Almost any household cleaning product can do permanent damage if it gets in your eyes. Things like oven cleaner and drain unblocker (usually containing caustic soda or sulfuric acid) will do damage on skin contact, which I assume it’s what’s used in these attacks.

I’m not saying that’s a reason to not introduce further regulation if that’s what’s needed, just making the point that there are loads and loads of things you can get your hands on easily enough that would be usable in this way.


#5

Aren’t the “pre-made” versions diluted to a way greater extent though? Not to say they can’t do damage as obviously they can but not at the same speed or to the same degree that self-diluted caustic soda does


#6

Depends on the product. Some of the more potent ones are approaching the limit of how concentrated a solution you can physically/chemically get.

Which, I suppose, begs the question of why you can freely get solid caustic soda anyway.


#7

16 year old arrested


#8

Yeah, seems to me that solid caustic soda should not be able to be purchased over the shelf and that the other products, drain unblockers and the like could easily have their levels of corrosion regulated somehow.


#9

This is one of those things I find terrifying. Some asshole aggrieved over being dumped can just buy some acid and throw it in someone’s face. Wtf world.


#10

Last nights attacks were street robberies by the look of things so completely random


#11

Christ. Just take the wallet, why acid someone?


#12

Horrible. I’ve had sleepless nights thinking about this stuff.

Just…why?


#13

They’re using the acid to get people to step off their mopeds, then stealing the mopeds.

Sentencing for people using acid should be ramped up a hell of a lot


#14

Yeah, they were targeting delivery drivers. Imagine being some poor sod working for Deliveroo, shit pay, in the rain, no benefits, and someone gives you life-altering injuries and steals your source of income.


#15

This is the sort of thing that makes me want to go and live in a log cabin. I know that’s not helpful and doesn’t address the issue, but I don’t know how to. Just despair.


#16

This must be pretty difficult to legislate against I’d imagine with bleaches (alkaline) etc so freely available.


#17

the response from Deliveroo is atrocious too.

anyone actually still using them?


#18

but so are knives and people who carry knives get prison sentences. should be treated the same way.


#19

I read this morning on my Twitter feed someone talking about delivery drivers being targetted for their mopeds.

This kind of thing is utterly terrifying, especially when particular people are being specifically terrifying. Thinking about the people who perpetrate this kind of crime are enough to turn me full-on Tory.


#20

Yeah, it’s difficult not to go a bit Daily Mail when it comes to stuff like this isn’t it.