DirtyPants or whatever. What a misery guts he was.

Yeah that’s fair

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I reckon I put kids somewhere between traffic wardens and cyclists as far as usually being a minor irritant and trying to avoid them on sight

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Sometimes pretending (or maybe over-emphasising) that you don’t actually like kids is the easiest way to end a conversation about why you don’t want any.

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I think lots of kids prefer that. I see a lot of adults try to be zany and high-octane with kids, but they often like it if you just chat to them normally. The generational divide isn’t what it used to be - we can easily shoot the shit with young kid about gaming or whatever.

Pretty horrendous time to have kids right now though innit. Pandemic, no real support, world is on fire, planet probably going to be unliveable in 30 years at most at this rate. Power to anyone doing it.

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The thought of a five year old trying to carry a pint of lager without spilling 80% of it is making me LOL/wince.

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Feel awful for my best friend’s brother’s girlfriend- they just had their first two weeks ago and cause of the pandemic she missed out on classes etc and a chance to make friends with other new mums.

Can confirm it’s incredibly hard work and that’s just from observing my parents raise my brothers.

This is a problem for us now. Doing ante-natal classes online and my GF is missing out on meeting all the other mums-to-be and the support that would provide.

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I mean on the other hand you’ve chosen to do the least eco-friendly thing ever so you’re part of the problem so ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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sorry totally missed this answer and it’s a good one

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!!! Congratulations!

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one of the very serious general errors in going down the route of ‘they chose to have them’ is that the element of choice for a great many women is removed, and more than you’d want to hope in modern-day society.

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Thanks dingers!

Not really sure what’s happening but I’m going to assume it’s a good thing

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i have recently acquired some new board games i would like to discuss with you. i think i need to do a proper penoid thread

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It’s no excuse to be a dick about it obviously, but do wonder whether in some cases the extreme anti-child kick back comes as a misguided reaction to the type of parent who spouts the I can’t believe you wouldn’t want kids/you’ll feel differently when you’re older etc lines all the time.

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Used to find kids dead annoying but came to the realisation that I mostly encountered them in places where they were liable to bored and irritable (on trains, in restaurants, in supermarkets) where some small adjustments on my part (mostly noise cancelling headphones) made a big difference. I have three nieces and nephews, two of whom are still less than 18 months old but the oldest niece is 8 and she’s loads of fun.

Here’s child Jacob Rees-Mogg reading the FT. Look at it. Look. At. It.

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that’s no child.

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