#52

I’ll be honest, the whole rape thing really put me off listening to them as much and also trying to go and see a live show.

#53

Hmm, I was not aware of all that, had to google it.

#54

Yep, just made a thread on the same - I’ve spent a lot of time mulling over my reaction to it.

#55

Yeah, I mean I’m not saying I stopped listening to his stuff, I just ceased being really into what they were doing, etc.

See also Sun Kil Moon: his recent craziness has meant I haven’t bothered to check out anything since Benji.

#56

Don’t worry
his new album is pits

I’m glad he’s put out an overly indulgent mess of an album which pairs with his personality perfectly.

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#57

Like you, I was not aware of this situation either and the serious allegations against Michael Gira. I was very tempted by the Roundhouse gig next month, to experience the sonic assault and also to see Thurston Moore who is supporting. However, Googling it and reading the other thread have tainted my perspective on Gira and potentially how I enjoy his music. Without wanting to sound too glib, it has been interesting to read everyone’s perspectives.

Oops, thread hijack?

#58

My Bloody Valentine - Loveless
0-10 listens: interesting but kind of weird and impenetrable except Soon
10-20 listens: aah…I see it…and not just Soon
20-30 listens: the whole album is great
30+ listens: this is my favourite album of all time

Talk Talk - Spirit of Eden
0-10 listens: this is kind of pretentious, self-absorbed and difficult to grasp but intriguing
10-20 listens: Oh right…yes…
20-30 listens: In darkened room quietly sobbing
30+ listens: this is amongst my favourite 20 albums of all time

It also took me a while to get Coltrane, Miles Davis and Ornette Coleman until my ear was attuned in…now love most of their discographies that I know

#59

i always kind of liked the yellow house stuff, but wasnt completely sold on them until i saw their letterman 2 weeks performance. obsessed since then

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#61

With things like Loveless, I think it helps if you have decent headphones, or a very decent stereo setup at least. I found you need to absorb the sounds, and subtleties in some ways. I would say the same for things like the XX debut (and others really).

Does this sound wanky?

#62

Neurosis. I heard them quite early on, but found it easier to get into all the bands they inspired and then go back to their discog. With Swans, I had to try albums from all over their catalogue before they clicked. I started with Children of God, which I found insanely challenging. Then I heard The Great Annihilator and was hooked. Have been in love ever since. Also Autechre. Still not 100% sold on the later stuff, but the earlier stuff is amazing.

#63

Haha… not at all. I would second that…really headphone listening…in fact I can barely recall a time in recent years listening to it any other way…maybe cos my kids would object probably…they just don’t get it yet!

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#64

latest one is FKA twigs. Did not get the hype when LP1 was released but I have sort of gone back to it slowly and this year I’ve become obsessed with it. Probably my most played album of the year so far.

#65

I was just listening to Misery is a Butterfly and thinking the exact same thing. I haven’t given Barrigán or their new one a chance though.

#66

He’s an incredibly talented bassist. Dark steering was the first I heard him, but it comes through a lot in a lot of his music.

#67

Nick Cave
Sun Ki Moon
Arab Strap

#68

It never helps when there is an amount of hype about a record. I’ve listened to things at the time and been nonplussed. But gone back a while later and finally warmed to them…and ended up loving a lot of records.

#69

This album has been my gateway into them also, I am currently obsessed with To Be Kind.

#70

I think some of my favourites come about by doing this. Not necessarily hype records but an album will come out and i’ll give it a listen and not be too bothered about it and then something spurs me to listen again months or years later and I get heavy obsessed.

#71

The Cure.

And quite a few classic rock acts.

#72

Exactly. The last time this happened it was Grimes. When Visions came out I was like ‘whatever’ (there was a lot of hype) but I gave it a second chance a little while later, and loved her ever since.

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