#43

Grizzly Bear - Had a copy of Veckatimest on the back of 2 Weeks but struggled to get past the 3rd track, thought they were one-hit-wonders until I had to stand through their set at Primavera Porto 2013 to get a good spot for Blur. Was thoroughly impressed and bought a copy of Shields, which is now firmly in my top 30 of the 2010s. I also went back to Veckatimest and really enjoy it now.

Queens of Stone Age - Thought No-one Knows was one of the most overrated tracks in 00s rock during my school years, probably because I was learning the guitar and the solo is really one of the worst ever written. Then I heard The Lost Artā€¦ on a friendā€™s car radio and thought ā€œthatā€™s not bad,ā€ listened to Rated R and was converted. Really love Like Clockwork too, but not 100% sold on Song for the Deaf, singles aside

#44

I havenā€™t got to the Great Annihilator yet, so will go there next - thank you.

Be interested to see what you make of To Be Kind and The Glowing Man. Have you seen them live?

#45

I havenā€™t. They are playing Leeds in May and Iā€™m considering going just for the experience, I went to see Sunn O))) a few years ago even though Iā€™m not a great fan just to experience the sonic assault and it was incredible, although I did get bored after about an hour!

#46

I think The Jesus and Mary Chain are potentially one of those bands. I really like Just Like Honey (which I first heard through Lost in Translation, probably my favourite film)ā€¦ Iā€™d say itā€™s one of my favourite songs, but nothing else theyā€™ve done sounds anywhere near as good to me (from what Iā€™ve heard), that I canā€™t get into them.

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#47

Yeah, Iā€™m the same with Grizzly Bear. Gave Veckatimest some time when it came out but wasnā€™t into it. Think I was watching Coachella stream and watched them because nothing else was on, this was around the time of Shields and was mesmerised. Pretty sure they ended with 2 Weeks / Half Gate / Sun in Your Eyes and that was me hooked. Got Shields and worked my way back. Shields is definitely Top 10 for the decade for me.

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#48

Definitely music which is intended to be experienced live. Iā€™ve been the last three or four times and while I certainly donā€™t dislike the recent albums, I find them pretty inessential companion pieces to the performance.

#49

@Olivarez @LastAstronaut Agree. Though I came to Swans through the Swans Are Dead live album and Soundtracks For The Blind. This meant I was pretty primed for the comeback and really liked Our Father (and the two gigs I saw), but I quickly left The Seer by the wayside and cba with anything since. That said, would still be very keen to see one of their upcoming dates to experience the live thing again - even if todayā€™s thing isnā€™t much like the SaD stuff.

#50

The Seer was the first one I heard and I really got into it immediately but Iā€™m into that sort of overly long music thing. I wasnā€™t always though, so there you go.

#51

So am I, I have no problem with tracks breaking the 20 or even 30 minute mark. Godspeed, Wolves in the Throne Room, Yndi Halda etc etc. I might just have to accept that Iā€™m never going to love all of their stuff and just enjoy the bits I do.

I think I should try and get a ticket for their live show in May though as I believe they are one of those bands I should try and see live at least once.

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#52

Iā€™ll be honest, the whole rape thing really put me off listening to them as much and also trying to go and see a live show.

#53

Hmm, I was not aware of all that, had to google it.

#54

Yep, just made a thread on the same - Iā€™ve spent a lot of time mulling over my reaction to it.

#55

Yeah, I mean Iā€™m not saying I stopped listening to his stuff, I just ceased being really into what they were doing, etc.

See also Sun Kil Moon: his recent craziness has meant I havenā€™t bothered to check out anything since Benji.

#56

Donā€™t worry
his new album is pits

Iā€™m glad heā€™s put out an overly indulgent mess of an album which pairs with his personality perfectly.

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#57

Like you, I was not aware of this situation either and the serious allegations against Michael Gira. I was very tempted by the Roundhouse gig next month, to experience the sonic assault and also to see Thurston Moore who is supporting. However, Googling it and reading the other thread have tainted my perspective on Gira and potentially how I enjoy his music. Without wanting to sound too glib, it has been interesting to read everyoneā€™s perspectives.

Oops, thread hijack?

#58

My Bloody Valentine - Loveless
0-10 listens: interesting but kind of weird and impenetrable except Soon
10-20 listens: aahā€¦I see itā€¦and not just Soon
20-30 listens: the whole album is great
30+ listens: this is my favourite album of all time

Talk Talk - Spirit of Eden
0-10 listens: this is kind of pretentious, self-absorbed and difficult to grasp but intriguing
10-20 listens: Oh rightā€¦yesā€¦
20-30 listens: In darkened room quietly sobbing
30+ listens: this is amongst my favourite 20 albums of all time

It also took me a while to get Coltrane, Miles Davis and Ornette Coleman until my ear was attuned inā€¦now love most of their discographies that I know

#59

i always kind of liked the yellow house stuff, but wasnt completely sold on them until i saw their letterman 2 weeks performance. obsessed since then

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#61

With things like Loveless, I think it helps if you have decent headphones, or a very decent stereo setup at least. I found you need to absorb the sounds, and subtleties in some ways. I would say the same for things like the XX debut (and others really).

Does this sound wanky?

#62

Neurosis. I heard them quite early on, but found it easier to get into all the bands they inspired and then go back to their discog. With Swans, I had to try albums from all over their catalogue before they clicked. I started with Children of God, which I found insanely challenging. Then I heard The Great Annihilator and was hooked. Have been in love ever since. Also Autechre. Still not 100% sold on the later stuff, but the earlier stuff is amazing.

#63

Hahaā€¦ not at all. I would second thatā€¦really headphone listeningā€¦in fact I can barely recall a time in recent years listening to it any other wayā€¦maybe cos my kids would object probablyā€¦they just donā€™t get it yet!

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