August 2018 Politics Thread


#201

was gonna do the same myself, but with the brexit thread, fascism thread and monthly politics threads I don’t know if I can take any more gloom.


#202

It’s just done isn’t it. Enjoy yourselves as it’s gonna go mad soon.
We’ve discussed climate change as a driver for the neo-liberal shift right and closing of the borders before.
Genuinely think that people know more than they’re letting on and it’s really really fucked


#203

Everyone’s in a great mood this morning huh


#204

CORBYN!


#205

The way these recent articles have been increasingly stating the idea that limiting global warming to 2 degrees may be too little too late…makes me think you’re right.

There’s still a long way to go to even convince certain powers to make the steps necessary to achieve 2. We are so far from what is needed right now


#206

Does anyone remember that BBC (I think) drama from about a decade (possibly longer) ago where walls/hard borders went up to ‘protect’ Europe from African migrants moving North due to climate change? Seems pretty prescient now.


#207

Alright Thanos.


#208

Can we just declare it a complete emergency, like a wartime situation, and ban any non-essential fuel use (or ration it), ban production of beef, ban other things that I think of later?


#209

Come on, people. As if Elon would let this happen


#210

do you think left wing politicians/people should talk about degrowth more? even the best lefty people seem to be on board for more growth, just automated.

probably be way unpopular.


#211

I just hope there’s a decade left at least. Would like some time to live and love and come to terms with death really.


#212

i remember they’d only air the first planet earth series in america if they cut all references to climate change to avoid upsetting sponsors/politicians. a small example but pretty telling all the same.

i think it’s been too late for a very long time, unfortunately.

this is a great companion doc to “children of men” which explores a world increasingly divided by walls/climate disaster/war/etc


#213

John McDonnell suggest support for antifa against rise of the right

Nearly Every reply is by fbpe chumps going on about brexit again


#214

And Stephen Pollard reading it as evidence that Jews are right to be concerned for some reason.


#215

I think so. Redistribution and re-use really are the way forward, with any growth coming from efficiency rather than consumption. It’s a hard sell though, because it’s always simplified as “they just want to take away from the strivers who built our great nation” or some similar bollock.


#216

this is the idiocy you’re up against in this conversation:

discourse and political thinking is so corroded and infantile that this^ passes for wisdom and deep thought, and tens of thousands of people in 2018 genuinely don’t know the difference between a fascist and an antifascist


#217

I wonder if people knew during the rise of fascism in the 20s and 30s


#218

We already are. It’s called Brexit!!

Now how’s that for satire?? Call the BBC and get me on a panel show, stat!


#219

Genuinely baffles me that people think “they’re two sides of the same coin” is a valid argument…


#220

As soon as there is a phrase or analogy that’s widely accepted to have a meaning it just becomes dogmatic for many people. Once you apply it it’s evidently true. Such is the power of language/condensing meaning