#277

Yeah, as someone who has never really read any Marvel comics, I remember when I they started the while thing thinking something like “Thor? Captain America? Pfft, could they not afford the good ones?”.

I wasn’t really interested until I saw Avengers Assemble way after it came out. The success has been built on the strength of the films, rather than just the brand

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#278

Yes this is so annoying, they have massively interfered with that timeline, why would Cap even bother going and putting the stone back there. I normally try not to get too wound up about stuff like this, but time travel in this film is total bollocks.

#279

Should have been Hulk and Tony working it out together

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#281

Russo had lines!

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#282

Banner basically dumps on all the pop culture BTTF type time travel, cos it just doesn’t really work. You can’t change history cos doing so removes your impetus to do that. It’s why they have to steal the stones and bring them to the present, rather then just going back and stopping Thanos.

But then that all gets abandoned when Thanos shows up, they basically do that type of time travel. He dies in 2014, which logically doesn’t allow him to then go on to do the stuff in Infinity War that leads to the snap, everyone going back in time, and Thanos coming forward in time etc etc

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#283

Unless of course, Stark’s snap just put everything right

#284

That’s my headcanon. Dusted away and reappeared in 2014 with no memory of what happened. No problems :hugs:

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#286

Guys - I may be an idiot but the time travel stuff is pretty clear

They don’t mess with the “past” when they mess with stuff that’s already happened. They create a fork, an alternative timeline. An alternative version of reality. It’s all explained by Tilda Swinton to Paul Rudd

Accept it and enjoy the fun movie you dafties

Anyway, really good enjoyable film

I’m just fucked off we sat through the entire end credits for nothing - I went to Google if there was any end credit sequences but there was no signal in the cinema

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#288

Oh yeah - I’m blushing here xylo

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#289

I’m glad the kids and I watched Thor 3 the night before, I’d seen it but they hadn’t. It’s fucking great anyway, but they would have been clueless about Valkyrie and Thor’s pals otherwise

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#290

Presumably the Hawkeye TV show will take place during the 5 year time gap when he’s off slaying baddies? Does this alternative Hawkeye character have a name in comic world?

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#292

That’s what happens if they don’t take the stones back - which is why Cap goes off at the end, to avoid that.

I can take this to a point (and - I think it’s clear I did really enjoy this!) but I find this kind of lazy plotting really frustrating. You CAN do time travel stuff well, and this looked like it was going there at one point. I don’t think it’s a lot to ask for internal consistency?

#293

But but but

There’s no snap now.

They killed Thanos before he could do it.

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#294

I CBA to even think it through to argue with you, it’s just a movie, it’s fine :octopus:

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#296

I’m not saying it will be any good

I don’t watch any of the marvel TV shows anyway, life’s too short

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#298

Nah, I watched an episode or 2 of punisher, not for me.

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#299

I do quite fancy starting a watch through of all the marvel movies, try and watch them all before Xmas when presumably the new one will come out on blu ray. It will require some careful cinema paradise list management for the ones I don’t already have or aren’t on Netflix

Do the Hulk films count as part of the timeline? I don’t think I can be arsed to watch them again. Start with Iron Man I think

#301

Yeah I remember liking that one

IM2 , Thor 2 and Dr Strange are the properly boring ones I think. I maybe should give Dr Strange a fair go, I bailed on it, maybe I just wasn’t in the right mood

#302

The Ed Norton one counts, the other one nooooooooo

#303

Don’t think I want to see anyone other than Ruffers as the green fella

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