Some of my friends at the pub yesterday who voted to Leave were moaning about parliament now having control over Brexit, while also saying Theresa May is doing a good job as PM and that she ‘gets a lot of shit from MPs’ or something. For some reason this made my blood boil but ultimately I said nothing.
It just drives me batshit that they can’t see how this is all a very bad thing, that they’ve essentially voted to make themselves poorer, that they can’t see through Theresa May’s obvious bullshit about helping working people, and that they don’t realise how much of the press is controlled by billionaires who want us to vote against our interests. I’ve known these people for years and it fills me with grief that they’ve allowed themselves to become brainwashed like this.
Probably a pointless thread, but this is starting to bother me more than I thought it would. Is it actually possible to talk to Brexit voters about Brexit without it ending up in an argument? Is anyone else experiencing this awkwardness?
sometime my blood does boil when people say stupid shit, but I just try to remain firm and give my reasoned opinion, if it’s appropriate to do so at the time. Like I probably won’t say to my 86 year old grandfather that Brexit was a bad fucking idea, but i’d be more than willing to have a decently spirited debate with someone I’d know wouldn’t descend into outright screaming.
Still couldn’t convince my mum to vote remain. She said the next day she felt cheated. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
An acquaintance of mine who’s rabidly pro-leave (despite having very minimal arguments to justify it) tweeted his outrage at the judges’ ruling on Thursday. When I queried this he just said “we won, there’s nothing more for anyone to debate”. I kind of left it at that and didn’t bother pursuing it cos I’d have lost a day to a pointless argument.
I’m actually resigned to brexit happening but the thing I hate most is that now the leave side narrowly won and got the result they wanted, any sort of discussion is beyond the pale. It’s not up for debate apparently. That’s before you get to the ridiculous gripes that people have with the judges actually doing their job correctly.
The other thing is pro-Leave people on social media advertising themselves going on holiday saying “off to Spain now. Wonder if I’ll need a visa like the remoaners say lol”.
Have a few friends who voted for the conservatives at the past two elections because they ‘thought that they were going to win anyway and may as well have voted for them’. Have no problem calling them tossers to their faces tbh.
Of course it is. You don’t have to go into the argument with the end game of changing their minds in one go. Just come up with a few things that bother you the most, raise them, and then diplomatically say something like “well, we all have our opinions” and then leave it. You’ll have said something, they’ll have a seed of doubt sown in their minds… And just chip away like that.
Stop having a shit time at the pub. Just talk about X Factor finalists of years gone by or favourite Oasis b-sides or the precise point Prince’s classic album run ended.