Thank-you. I’d only met them twice so they weren’t close to me but obviously was worried for my cousin and her husband’s sake.

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What was the first fire about?

Saw something that said a guy was welding up a hole in the building yesterday

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hadn’t realized yesterday how close this was to ‘my’ bit of beirut, (gemmayze), the bit that i was in when i used to spend a lot of time there a few years ago.

very weird to see the videos on twitter today. its totally smashed. little four or five story apartment buildings and sexy bars and restaurants. a lot of destruction but at least most buildings look like they’re standing.

i guess this might already be obvious or commented on, but if not, the explosion happened just outside the town center. destruction includes this richer middle class bit of town frequented by the middle class and foreigners, and some (apparently from twitter, never been there) poorer neighborhoods round the port.

been through quite a few big explosions in my life. its rough. its the broken glass for miles around that causes a lot of the injuries. maybe some people would have blast film or something due to the occasional car bombs in the city, but probably most people wouldn’t i guess

Have we had a change of moderators?

Do some “normal” users have editing rights? I used to along with a bunch of others, then there was a fuss and I thought we all lost it. Maybe some kept it / were given it.

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Not to derail a very serious tbread, and not meant as any slight to kermit, but it would be good to have transparency if anyone new has the ability to edit posts.

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Hiya, sorry yeah I can edit posts/thread titles/close and move threads etc but I’m not a mod and haven’t used any of these things apart from when asked- quite often forget I can tbf

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This is what I was going to raise. It was agreed, after an event that I don’t want to drag up again, that only the moderators should have the power to edit other users’ posts, so we lost our Leaders roles. Absolutely nothing against Kermy, but unless I’ve missed something, I don’t think we’ve discussed changing that policy.

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Ahhh sorry, won’t post again in here about it cause it’s completely the wrong place (not having a pop at anyone else obvs, sure we all feel the same way) but I didn’t ask for it, if people don’t want me to have it then that’s cool cause like I said I haven’t used it apart from twice maybe just to save moderators a job

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Were you awarded the powers or did you just randomly notice you had them?

I was given them.
Shall we maybe start a new thread cause this is wildly off topic and a bit disrespectful to the subject matter? X

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:+1:

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Tragic stuff and the repair mission will be huge. Hope the international community can come together in a way that respects local solutions and doesn’t contribute to a vacuum of power or further isolate its standing particularly with everything that’s gone on beforehand and on it’s doorstep. Something tells me that will be a big ask.

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Having added to this that almost a 5th of Lebanon’s population is refugees particularly from Syria, and risking a healthcare breakdown due to covid, foot shortages. It was already a country at risk.
I hope to god the narrative will continue to be that of a tragedy due to neglect at the harbour and not the conclusions so many will wish to jump to of an attack (thankfully that seems less likely now), because I could really see the efforts to stop this spiralling out of control stopping that way.

I know ‘likes’ mean diddly squat but this was such an amazing gesture of solidarity. Never thought I’d see the day that the flag of Lebanon would be projected on Tel Aviv’s City Hall.

I would argue Lebanon is beyond repair, it being a failed state in all but name. Very sad.

Moreover, all the country’s sectarian political factions whose political agenda were always affiliated to external entities is what made our country a fertile land for international interventions, particularly US interventions in our domestic political affairs…In this context, the current economic and financial crisis, the blatant inability to secure the simplest public services to confront the Corona epidemic, and the exacerbation of the electricity and fuel crisis, were also parts of the catastrophe, but it happened to culminate in the horrific Beirut Port explosion. LCP considers that our sectarian political system makes it hard for the state and the people to resist the American-Zionist project in the region, nor we can build a nation that is worth all national sacrifices made ever since this country was established. Our party sees that the priority now is…to bring down the government and form instead a new transitional government, whose ministers should not be affiliated to any of the country’s political factions. Such a government is a top priority in order to build a new, modern, democratic, and national state. Only such a state will be able to address three crises that our country was and still facing: the economic collapse underway, the Coronavirus epidemic along with its health damages, and the repercussions resulting from the Beirut Port explosion. In this context, the party affirms that the Lebanese people today are at a historical crossroads from which there can be no turning back, and that the explosion of the port has opened a new political landmark. Besides this catastrophic explosion, it can be an opportunity to renew the political system and sets the stage for a new social contract.

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LCP considers the French President visit as an extra signal of renewed international support and legitimization of the political system. Over the past 30 years, France, as well as other foreign power supported the corrupt political system. These powers were directly financing the state institutions that is controlled and managed by corrupt political factions and to the and France was a direct financer in Paris I, II, and III conferences. Also, the French authorities still detain in its prison, the Freedom Fighter- George Ibrahim Abdallah- and by this France is violating all decisions issued by the French judiciary, and therefore responded to pressures from the US administration and the Zionist entity.

LCP calls on the Lebanese citizens to adhere to their patriotism, which has proved to be a safety valve in all difficult circumstances that Lebanon has been through. The party believes that the task of building a modern citizenship state presides over any other attempt to leverage foreign powers position and providing them with the tools and resources to intervene in Lebanon’s domestic affairs. Such calls would provide a fertile land to fragment state institutions, and undermine national sovereignty.

that bit about france in particular is very telling - i’m seeing a lot of disgust from lebanese at the calls to be put under a french mandate etc. things are moving pretty quickly tho, protesters have already been taking government buildings the last 24 hours or so and there’s lots of chat about how far and how hard to push. i think they’ll be feeling the buzz of seeing the entire government resign, that has to be a terrifying/thrilling thing to witness.

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