#221

For me the music list is very narrow. It’s got good stuff but multiple albums from the same artists, too few weirder genre choices etc.

#222

The tv list is pretty narrow too really- anyone with any knowledge of the critical tv ‘canon’ could probably have predicted 80 or 90 of the entries and the only real debate is over the ordering.

#223

Maybe that’s because good TV is a broader base of styles. Or there is less of it comparatively.

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#224

It’s hard to compare the two, certainly. For tv the means of production and distribution are controlled by a much smaller group of providers than with music. The amount of tv seriously reviewed and considered by critics is small subset of that. The tv list is all either the sort of ‘quality’ tv that critics talk about or the odd ‘popular’ show that is too much of a cultural phenomena to be ignored (Strictly, Bake Off etc).

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#225

Can’t believe I missed the Century chat

I had some great points about how 2000 is definitely the start of the 21st century

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#226

Gonna work my way through all 100, brb

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#227

I keep coming back to this. What a perfect response. POTY.

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#228

firstly where are Songs For The Deaf, Toxicity and De-Loused In The Comatorium?

secondly, at the end of the 00’s they published a list for the decade that didn’t have Winehouse at number 1

has the album got magically better or has something else changed since then? :thinking:

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#229

She died

(Less cynical answer: yes albums can age for better or worse, obviously.)

#230

Think they should have made this a top 200 tbh given its covering roughly 20 years it seems about right and I bet 200-101 would have had some interesting results for you indie bedwetters :wink:

#231

Less consensus due to a larger spread of albums and artists we listen to now

#232

What

#233

Prior to about 2004 more music was very much controlled by the majors and media. It’s that whole thing about how festivals like Reading tend to have lots of headliners that made it big 20 years ago.

In the 90s we all pretty much had copies of the same narrow albums but these days there’s do much more available to listen to and pick up.

This it’s maybe not surprising a list based on averages would show up an old classic like that which everyone heard as a big hitter

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#234

Heard about 8 of these in full, how many indie points do I win?

#235

No Boards of Canada, Aphex Twin, Actress, Andy Stott, Autechre,

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#236

Whatever you think of the band, to have no American Idiot in this arbitrary list is criminal.

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#237

Ok then

#238

Or Animal Collective. Mid-00s indie rock/pop is clearly not in vogue.

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#239

That’s just every P4K BNM album of the decade put in some sort of order, isn’t it? Quicker than actually running a poll, I guess.

#240

Because it wasn’t a list of the best albums of the 90s

safety :wink: wink

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