Billy Corgan doesn't exist


#2542

#2543

WILLIAM!

williampcorganYou have to love the Internets. Seems this is a new meme going around (someone sent this to me) where I guess the question is(?): Is T Swift my child. Hmm…
I’ll take the compliment of the comparison here despite the fact that I guess the jokes on me? (and not the lovely and talented Miss Swift) Which becomes a good starting point back into where I left off last time; on notions of image/self-esteem/God/and self-love. But before I do let me express how I continue to be blown away by the number of messages I am receiving regarding these issues. There simply is no end to how many are struggling, and it seems to have some connection to this modern or Digital Age culture we are living in. Where what’s real is just as relevant, or so it appears, as to what is constructed, fake or false. Where a real you must negotiate time-space next to the more shiny or dark social media avatar of you, and so on and so forth up the food chain of governments and endless celebrity. Each tier of human life augmented to the point where what you no longer know what, or whom, to believe in; including God.
And for those new to the game, it is easiest for me to speak of my own experience. So please consider that I do so as illustration. Take from it as you will…
There is NO such person as ‘Billy Corgan’. He (BC) does not exist. Or, if he does exist (per these times), he is a creation from my mind to yours, and no different than a cartoon drawing of Batman or Sponge Bob.
Trace the route: from 1967 to 1985 I was Bill Corgan, born WPC. My father was known to us as Billy, so he does exist, but the ‘Billy’ I speak of, the one who made records with SP and appeared on chat shows, was a creation. And I still remember the day around age 18 when I told someone, ‘don’t call me Bill anymore. I am Billy now…’ Now why would I do such a thing? Because Bill, or Little Bill as I was known to the family, was beaten, harassed, broken and discarded over so many years, and in so many separate instances (let’s say the number of disassociative events is in the thousands) that he (Bill) was WORTHLESS to me. But Billy Corgan, a construct of my own making, with a different walk, haircut, and…end pt 1


#2544

Wonder how he figures the joke is on him and not Taylor Swift. He has done a lot of these deep instagram posts recently, around body image and stuff, quite nice sentiments but can’t really square it with the stuff he said to DeviEver. Also this one about Billy Corgan not being a real person but a perception of a persona, probably heightened with celebrity but true for everyone to some extent, if people react badly to elements of a persona he is still responsible, the moral of mother night has always stuck with me, you are who you pretend to be


#2545

Also, most importantly, Taylor Swift does really look like Billy Corgan


#2546

Fucking love that book. Mother Night, Cat’s Cradle and Slaughterhouse 5 might be the best trio of books by a single author that I’ve read.

What do you mean this isn’t the book thread? Who’s Billy Corgan? Isn’t he like the Elon Musk of the Music world?


#2547

It’s probably out of order to make comparisons but if I had to I’d say she looks more like Owen Wilson


#2548

oh wow


#2549

Those are my 3 favourites too, recently watched a video about how slaughterhouse 5 actually perpetuates nazi propaganda around the circumstances of the Dresden attacks, which is a shame but I’m sure unintended on vonny-G’s part


#2550

Ah hate people. Stupid pricks

:heart:️ Those books so much. All three might be in my top-10 ever


#2551

i think i may have seen the same video. is it like a german antifa guy on youtube doing fact checking?


#2552

Yeah three arrows I think


#2553

Looks as if there’s a second part:

Honestly, I found it pretty affecting and I get what he’s saying. It was briefly discussed much earlier in the thread, but it’s fascinating and infuriating (especially so in 2018) how his depression and his being a victim of child abuse are trivialized and regularly treated as “LOL look at this guy, he’s crazy!” by the internet.


#2554

Fair play Willaim, fair play

n which The Smashing Pumpkins cover Sugar Ray’s “Fly” with Mark McGrath; perform Hole songs with Courtney Love; and revisit the Gish track “Snails” for the first time in 18 years.

And that’s just scratching the surface of what happened.


#2555

Chino doing bodies must have been good


#2556

Sugar Ray cover!!


#2557

Apparently Billy has been answering fan questions on his Instagram. The answers are obviously short given the format but it’s neat seeing his opinions on certain songs of his and what projects might be in the future (he might release a book of lyrics and song meanings). And he’s very self-deprecating about the past decade.

https://www.instagram.com/stories/williampcorgan/

I feel vindicated that he considers Wound to be the most under-appreciated song on Machina. I still think it’s his best song.


#2558

That photo is amazing though.


#2559

Man…this song. It absolutely floors me. Bizarre how it isnt better thought of


#2560

Reckon it could be about the shapeshifter


#2561

Just sounds kinda like early 90s Cure with annoyingly nasal vocals.