I think it is a folly to expect it to be solely the rolling SP thread given it was originally a Nirvana vs Smashing Pumpkins thread which gave rise to an ‘are SP any good?’ conversation
If this had been started as ‘Rolling Smashing Pumpkins Thread’ I and I’d guess many others would probably never have clicked in here ever. But it’s difficult to change the tone of a thread midway through once a tone has been established and people have participated on that basis, and decide that the thread is actually something else now and that anyone still treating it the old way is participating in bad faith.
I think I’m in that rare venn diagram intersection of loving Pavement and Smashing Pumpkins and liking Stone Temple Pilots too (I love a few songs, like a few others and can leave quite a few more).
I think they’d be remembered more fondly if Weiland wasn’t such an abysmal lyric writer. ‘Plush’ is a cracker of a song but it has the worst chorus ever penned by man or machine:
Where you going for tomorrow? Where you goin’ with the mask I found? And I feel, and I feel When the dogs begin to smell her Will she smell alone?
Did you mean Scott as a person or musically? I think a strong case exists for Tiny Music and No. 4 being their best albums. Shangri La Dee Da is great too, the only real knock on it is that he has the standard “I’m a dad now” song on it.
Mostly Scott as a person. They had to kick him out of the band at one point and released an album with another singer (Talk Show I think?) which was rubbish.
Tiny Music is a bit of a shambles (though a mostly enjoyable shambles). I remember liking bits of No. 4 at the time but couldn’t tell you a thing about it now tbh. Neither were a patch on Purple imo. Then Weiland got arrested for domestic violence and I stopped listening.
