#671

he’s jared leto

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#672

He’s fine at portraying some characters though. His ridiculous ego and entitled attitude made his performance as an entitled bratty rich kid in Panic Room spot on :smiley:

#673

If replicants could reproduce, rather than each needed to be made, then it may not be initially be quicker (i.e. gestation/growing up etc), but the amount of born replicants reaching adulthood each year would exponentially increase. So, each year there would be more and more made ‘naturally’, which would likely relatively quickly overtake the capacity to manufacture them (certainly be cheaper). Would especially be useful for new colonies on far-flung planets where there isn’t a manufacturing base to start.

Certainly agree there is a lot of ambiguity in Leto’s intentions and replicants in general, but the ambiguity is sort of the defining feature of Blade Runner.

#674

But equally if they do that then he loses his monetary stream. What becomes of his business. He wants more replicants but he knows nothing of the technology. If that’s his aim he hasn’t throught things through at all, IMO.

#675

Also, he presumably already knows that Rachel died in order to give birth so there’s a huge mortality factor he will need to account for.

#676

Largely agree with both these points, but on Rachel’s death you could argue it was linked to being done in secret without medical attention and on the business model thing I was thinking along the lines of him being a megalomaniac and wanting a slave galactic empire thing. Also, would potentially be licensing money streams or he would own the replicant babies, plus the money made from the industry run on replicant labour. I would assume he intended to make the future replicant babies loyal/slaves like the newer models.

#677

This is exactly it, he explains it in the film. Hes not a mysterious character, theo!!!

#678

Oh right, hands up, I totally don’t recall him saying much of any value.

In that case it’s just stupid. Although Sci-Fi is known for following thematic ideas that make zero real sense. See the film Looker for that kind of thing (although that at least must have seemed logical at the time).

#679

Also gonna go with: why the fuck is anyone speculating if he laid it out exactly and why did no one else seem to be sure about it? Why didn’t you actually claim this earlier? It’s all a trick. :smiley:

#680

he explains it insofar as the opening title card says that he has perfected off-world farming colonies or something to that effect, and then in one of his scenes he basically has dollar signs in his eyes when talking about replicants being able to procreate and multiply by themselves. i’m not sure where there’s any ambiguity there?! that’s his whole motivation.

#681

So the answer is that I’m completely right and it’s batshit for all the reasons I state? Cool.

Clearly it’s about he money, which is why it’s hard to see how he wouldn’t spot the huge revenue loss giving replicants the ability to breed to cause him.

#682

I dont follow. He has a self-perpetuating slave race at his disposal and no production costs. Where’s the downside?

#683

He can’t make money off them, though. Once they can reproduce how can he control the offspring or make money from them? He’s essentially gifting them a life of their own.

That’s before you consider the straightforward nature of producing them from a production line vs via sex: the fact that you can’t guarantee they will get pregnant, that you can’t then control what the offspring will be.

This is why, if that’s his plan, his reasoning can’t be money. If it’s something else then what is it? Is he destroying humans and getting them to pay? But, again, he doesn’t actually know how any of it will or even could work. Is Deckard a replicant? It seems that Leto’s character probably thinks he isn’t in which case he’ll need male humans who aren’t infertile to create these…whatever they will be? They won’t be pure replicants.

If Deckard is a replicant then he was pretty off hand about letting that crucial piece of the technology he needs out of his sight.

I realise we are meant to be exploring themes of what it means to be human but that doesn’t mean you get a free pass to not give good reasoning for things that happen.

#684

If this thread is a rerun of the ‘Prometheus’ thread then Theo is creaky.

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#685

even if deckard isn’t a replicant, leto is still pretty blase about it, deckard might have some unusual yet essential sperm or something.

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#686

I was waiting for them to reveal that deckard and rachel were able to have kids because they were in “true love” :rofl: they still might tbh

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#687

Oh Christ.

I dread to think about sequels at this point. If the racing driver guy can do them too they might just come off but I can see the studio handing them out to some hacks. (Although it’s not done that well at the box office, right?)

#688

Absolutely no idea

Bautista: ‘growl growl’ small glasses

Jared: ‘blah blah’

Bautista: ‘growl growl’

FIIIIIIGGGGHT!

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#689

He will make more money because having an exponentially increasing number of replicants will make off-world colonisation easier. More colonies = $$$$$$. He’s basically the British empire of space.

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#690

well, this is going to haunt me all day. Thanks Chris!

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