Haha good

I enjoyed Antony Fantano’s review immensely.

did he manage to not be really irritating for once, or something?

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No, he was just as irritating. It also featured Cal Chuchesta, so even more so.
BUT he laid into ā€œbony vareā€ like the guy had stolen his girlfriend. Proper vitriol and a light-to-decent helping of disdain.

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A record that might’ve been amazing if the band had only bothered to write some actual songs.

Always remember reading that about Kid A. It’s defo played out to make comparisons between that record and any ā€œrock artist incorporates electronic soundsā€ LP but 22, a Million has more genuine parallels than most, though it’s not a record that by any means would necessarily appeal to fans of that album or vice versa. Bonny ol’Bear gets tired of the boundaries of folk music and, rather than turning to an established underground producer to revamp his sound (e.g. Anohni/HudMo, Bjork/Arca etc.) builds a sound for himself that deconstructs the music he was making before and stiches the pieces together with ā€œexperimentalā€ (primarily electronic and R&B) music in a pretty seemless fashion.

I get why people don’t like it. It’s not really got great traditional ā€œsongsā€ or ā€œsongwritingā€; again it sounds like he’s bored of making those and wanting to dismantle that music to come up with something less traditional. It’s also not doing anything remarkably new production-wise on the surface - know-it-all music geeks said the same about Kid A. But Bon Iver hit number 2 on the Billboard 100 with the last album and has gradually picked up a large Mumford-lovin’-listens-to-2-new-albums-a-year audience with For Emma. Bits of the album will probably push a lot of casual music fans out of their comfort zones and down a rabbit hole of great modern music. I just like the way it sounds and what he’s put together, but I can understand why critics are jumping on it too.

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Which is to say, I really get why people on here would think it sounds like shit emperor’s new clothes stuff, but I just like how it sounds anyway :wink:

The people who say it has no tunes really aren’t listening (presumably on purpose) or just too taken aback by the production fuckery. There’s easily some of the most beautiful stuff Vernon’s written lurking on the album. 22 (OVER SāˆžāˆžN) is his best opening gambit so far, 33 ā€œGODā€ and especially 29 #Strafford APTS really hone the glitch-folk aesthetic he’s going for without compromising his overall sound, and 8 (circle) becomes really something special by the end.

I still think it’s a bold experiment. I’m approaching it like an album with lyrics in a language I don’t know. It’s so obliquely written, the words drop any semblance of literal meaning beyond what I’m imagining. I’m not so much sure about the record’s divisiveness as I am that it’s a genuine grower. It needs a little time to seep through. Let some of these songs become familiar to you, and it transforms.

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genuinely baffled as to why anyone who likes any other bon iver or volcano choir stuff wouldn’t like this. really strong album.

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Impressions so far: good but not amazing. Way better than the last album but not as good as the debut.

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Can definitely see why fans of the first album, in particular, wouldn’t like this. They’re just very different albums.

Imagine thinking 22 is better than Flume.

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singles were good, rest of it sounds less good

yeah this

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dunno, self titled is way more ā€œarrangedā€

That one too, although the gulf isn’t as big. Could see how a fan of any of the three albums might not like the others

on each album the music sounds different but he sounds like he just sings the exact same thing over and over every time endlessly

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why even bother listening to this one then

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To see if I’m wrong.

Spent a couple of hours with this today, really impressed so far. Particularly loving 10 d E A T h b R E a s T.
Loved For Emma, but thought S/T was well overpraised.

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After a lot of listening I must say I really like it. It’s kind of different than the previous one (obviously) but the feeling is so tempting…so sensitive. It really soaks you in.