I’m on an advanced plan so it includes loads of places (but not the private data network on DFDS ferries, absolute shower of cunts)

Need to get on the phone to them and get a better plan in that case (seeing as I was out of contract in 2017) :thinking:

I was able to do mine over their webchat - pretty painless and I went from £11/month to £8 (4gb, unlimited texts and calls, “go roam” included).

Right, doing this right now. I’m paying £9/month for 4gb and unlimited texts/calls but I want my free stuff in Hong Kong :rage:

Why do they lose steam?

When e.g chrome books which run on similar OS are prized for longevity

Oh I just mean the whole phone seems to take longer and longer to do anything and clearing down storage doesn’t help.

The OnePlus 3 has a 6GB cache on the chip which is quite large so maybe that helps

Phones use flash memory for storage, this degrades fairly rapidly and gets slower and slower once cells die. Same happens to computers with ssd itll eventually get to a point where everything is so hard to read itll bring the computer/Phone to a crawl.

Yeah I get it, I’ve experienced it too, it’s just that chromebooks don’t do this, despite mostly running on low power cpus and memory.

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A tedious 30 minutes on the phone playing hardball, but eventually Petagno wins…

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I mean at a guess:

  • Chromebooks are made by different manufacturers who may simply be using better components.
  • They’re bigger and so can take advantage of better components with better heat dissipation
  • The components are also more spread out not rammed on top of each other
  • few (any) will be all wrapped around a mobile phone microwave transmitter/receiver which is constantly running.
  • No matter how used I doubt that the average Chromebook is on 24/7 processing a lot. Maybe 18 hours a day at most and certainly I doubt that would be an average figure?
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Yeah fair, it’s just the contradiction between average laptops lasting ~18 months before slowing, android phones maybe a touch more than that but not really*, and chromebooks having 5 years+ lifespan as a selling point.

*(why do phones constantly need and introduce higher power handsets, when a chromebook just bungs shite old atoms and stuff in and run fine)

Having said that - of course when I bought an expensive chromebook it had all sorts of hardware issues and I had to return it, yet my 18 month old budget Chinese smartphone is still powering through.

I mean we’re both dealing off anecdotal stuff anyway, but ‘average laptops’ usually means a laptop with Windows and that normally means someone owning that laptop who isn’t particularly discriminating about how they use it. You certainly can normally reset one of those to factory and clear it out and it will run a lot quicker.

They also tend to have moving parts. Cheaper laptops will have shittier fans in the side that get clogged with dirt. Often if you can open them up and properly clean them this will improve their speed as it’s down to dirt preventing the cooling working well, and bigger CPUs for larger computers tend to get big performance hits as they overheat.

And regarding Chromebooks not needing upgrades as often, again they’re very large comparatively and so all the components can be bigger and better designed. Our old iPad 2 was running fine in 2017 and still is according to the mates I gave it to. In fact I upgraded to an iPad 2017 because it was a little sluggish and was surprised how little speed increase I got from the new model.

But the iPad 2 is a 2011 piece of kit; in 2011 the iPhone 4S came out and I think you’d be hard pressed to anyone who would claim that iPhone is performing well. The size aspect makes a huge difference.

I think the reason new kit comes out is honestly that the old hardware does die in phones, precisely because it’s been designed to fit into such a small space, it is constantly heating and cooling (think of how often you pick up your phone and find it’s redhot due to mobile network use or whatever), so they will have to be replaced. Newer models will use better designed stuff to do things faster and closer to a full sized machine.

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Have to admit to being tempted by the OnePlus phones, are they good?

Well I think they are. @anon29812515 and @anon5266188 were both OnePlus wanker gang at one point at least, I think.

Fucking hell I bought an iPhone 6S from a friend and despite the battery being at 90% health it gets absolutely rinsed, seemingly only by Chrome. Is this normal? Can literally count it ticking down when using it.

Could be 4 years old and need a new battery.

Assuming you’re on a recent version of iOS, go to Settings > Battery > Battery Health and it’ll tell you how well the battery holds charge these days.

M8!

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Oops. Thought you meant 90% charge. I’ll go get my coat…

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My S10 Plus arrived yesterday. I’ve never owned anything close to a flagship phone before (it’s replaced an iPhone SE!) but for a combination of reasons (having a little extra money at the moment, getting lazier about hauling my DSLR up hills etc, being utterly sick of my iPhone, the prospect of SIM-only cheapo contracts in the nearish future, hoping I’ll get 3-4 years useful life out of it etc) I decided to go big.

I’ve gotta admit, it’s a work of art (and best of all, it still has a headphone jack :slight_smile: )

This is dated from February this year

Has a bunch of options to try to pinpoint Chrome being arse. In the meantime I’d just stick with Safari if you can? Unless it’s all browsers.

Are you often using Incognito windows because for this user it’s specific to them using Incognito

https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/chrome/sL9-wAj7E3k