Let alone a sheep farmer.
Yeah I knew too, because they played the anthem on Today this morning. I had already managed to forget it though.
bit of a Wolfcastle, Iâm guessing you all knew & it was just me who had escaped the flag-waving memo
itâs the fucking âbusiness leadersâ who got us all into this mess in the first place
Me nâall, only because he shares it with the wifeâs father. I wonder if Charlie boy used to keep a bottle of PoitĂn on top of the fridge?
I still think that Australia or Canada or New Zealand will be the first choice, but people arenât leaving the NHS because of the pay, but because of the long hours, poor treatment by management and the feeling that it will never get any better.
Pay is definitely a consideration tbh. Nursing wages are pretty shit relative to how specialist your training is and how intense the workload and psychological pressure can be.
Is that true?
Apple have lots of workers in Ireland, even if there are no stores:
I mean, I canât remember how many times Iâve seen nurses intervene and stop a doctor committing to a really stupid/lethal course of action because the nurse has more knowledge of a drug/illness/etc. There wages definitely donât reflect that kind of specialist knowledge and more and more of them know it.
People who work in the public sector get very used to sucking up poor compensation. We donât like it, but we do put up with it, up to a point, if not for noble reasons then at least for reasons of inertia. But when you get the feeling that youâre working for an organisation that is in an irretrievable tailspin then that becomes a different matter entirely.
Sorry, yeah, the main reason doctors are leaving the NHS isnât pay. I still think that pay probably isnât the main driver behind nurses leaving the UK either though - it is a big driver behind them moving out of cities, but the wages arenât much higher in other countries - again, itâs the workload, bad management, feeling undervalued and the feeling that itâs only going to get worse.
I dunno. Someone told me. Theyâre Irish
The trade off always used to be that public sector jobs would have lower pay but that was offset by a more secure position and pension.
You canât say that now.
Iâm a cheat as itâs my fiancĂ©eâs birthday â acts as a very timely reminder to wish HRH many happy returns
I worked in the NHS for 5 years, left this summer, so I get what youâre saying there. Definitely felt like things were getting stupider and more out of control over my last year.
Between 2010 and 2015 there was an acknowledgement that things were getting worse but that it didnât have to be the case forever. The 2015 general election and EU referendum were a real kick in the teeth for staff morale though, and Iâve never known NHS staff think it was as bleak as this before.
With any luck, the answer to that would be no and you can live happily ever after in the holiday destination of your choiceâŠ
or within itâs airport terminal, like in that Tom Hanks film
I loved Speed 1 but I didnât care for 2.
Someone should photoshop âBREXITâ onto the ship and BRITAINâS FUTURE onto the destroyed building, bit of satire.