Pretty sure it’s just him playing with the kind of 50s/early 60s rock n’ roll archetypes, a Chuck Berry-type thing, but I get what you mean. Still think Downbound Train/I’m on Fire is yet another great one-two at the centre of an album (going through all these albums in order is really revealing that to be a strength of his, Backstreets/Born to Run, Racing in the Street/Promised Land, Highway Patrolman/State Trooper).

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Haven’t responded to Born in the USA yet, but so much of what I love about it has been mentioned above. Saving it for Thursday when my brother, father and two of my best buddies are coming over for a listen. Pumped.

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and btw no one has EVER worn blue jeans better.

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Born down in a dead man’s town
And the first kick I took was when I hit the ground
You end up like a dog that’s been beat too much
'Til you spend half your life just to cover up

Probably one of the most iconic rock openings in history. If you ask most people what they associate with Springsteen it’ll likely be this song, and this album. I know it’s the album of his I’ve listened to the most by far. Born In The USA is one of those songs where it’s impossible not to absolutely crank it when it comes on, whenever and wherever you are. Of course the lyrics are deeply cynical and the song is used for ill-informed political purposes (like how Killing In The Name Of is often used by people who only hear the “fuck you I won’t do what you tell me!!!” part), but that doesn’t stop it being a jam, and enriches the meaning and impact of those massive drums and Bruce’s massive presence.

The amount of absolute HIT singles off this thing is insane. Born In The USA, I’m On Fire, Glory Days, Dancing In The Dark, Cover Me, I’m Goin’ Down, My Hometown. Even the ones that aren’t singles are near perfection. There isn’t a bad song on this album and you can tell it’s meant for massive stadium shows, the band is on point and Bruce’s lyrics are fire as ever. The only songs I don’t really jive as much with are Darlington County and Working On The Highway, but that’s a minor gripe, they are still great songs. Darlinton County is partially saved by the big man’s sax, a common theme on lesser songs. It actually sounds like it should have been on an early album, like Greetings.

I’m On Fire is one of my favourite songs on the record. I see that it’s a leftover from Nebraska, and it definitely has the same sparse nature and razor edge to some of the other songs on that album. That little guitar riff in the background and the sound of the drums tapping along, along with the echoey background noise makes the whole thing sound very dreamlike. Love Bruce’s little "whoo whoo"s at the end too. What lyrics there are are great:

Sometimes it’s like someone took a knife, baby, edgy and dull
And cut a six-inch valley through the middle of my skull
At night, I wake up with the sheets soakin’ wet
And a freight train runnin’ through the middle of my head

No Surrender has a fantastic chorus and hook, and the drums and the rest of the band sound massive on this track. I’ve never paid that much attention to the lyrics until now, but I really do like them. I often forget about this song for a while then find myself singing the hook out of nowhere. Bobby Jean is in the same category; I forget about this one a lot then I listen to it and I really like it, especially the sax (noticing a theme in my reviews? I absolutely stan Clarence Clemons).

'Cause we made a promise we swore we’d always remember
No retreat, baby, no surrender
Blood brothers in the stormy night
With a vow to defend
No retreat, baby, no surrender

I’m Goin’ Down has a ridiculously catchy hook. The organs on this one and the driving, smashing drum really carry this song. :saxophone: = 10 in this song too. Another one where it sounds like a love song or something more upbeat, but it’s about a relationship falling apart. Wouldn’t be surprised if someone’s used this for a wedding dance.

I pull you close now, baby, but when we kiss, I can feel a doubt
I remember back when we started
My kisses used to turn you inside out
I used to drive you to work in the morning
Friday night I’d drive you all around
You used to love to drive me wild, yeah
But lately girl you get your kicks from just driving me down
Down, down, down

Glory Days is another personal favourite, actually probably one of my favourite Springsteen songs period. Most everyone has that feeling of nostalgia for “the good ol’ days” and Bruce capitalizes on that big time. Love the personal feeling of this song, feels like something that could be set in any small town anywhere, where everyone knows everyone else for better or worse. The music clip is Bruce and the band performing at a bar, and the song definitely evokes that feeling. Like many of the songs on this album the drums sound huge, and really drive the whole song along.

Glory days well they’ll pass you by
Glory days in the wink of a young girl’s eye
Glory days, glory days

“I wish there was a way to know you’re in the good old days before you’ve actually left them.”
― Andy Bernard

Dancing In The Dark I think is another of Bruce’s most well known songs; I think most anyone you would ask would know this song. This thing gets a lot of radio play and for good reason. I think everyone’s felt the feelings of frustration that Bruce expresses in this song, like life is passing you by and you’re just getting nowhere, especially with creative projects. As well as this there are themes of struggling with your self-identity and self-worth. I’m not going to quote any of this song because no lyric on this song is wasted, this is basically a perfect song.

Yet another personal favourite, I never get sick of this song. The passion in the lyrics, the synthy guitars and thrumming bass, the driving drums, the progression and variance of the music and the fantastic storytelling. It’s like a three-course-meal of a song. Love it.

My Hometown is depressing as hell, and I’m sure it’s a story that’s been played out across America dozens of times in dozens of small towns. No more jobs, no more hope, nothing left to stick around for in this place your family has lived in for years. The last line is crushing:

I’m thirty-five, we got a boy of our own now
Last night I sat him up behind the wheel
And said, “son, take a good look around
This is your hometown”


I found this quote about Springsteen’s massive commercial success from this album interesting as well:

As Born in the U.S.A. became a massive commercial success, Springsteen expressed his thoughts on his growing fame in a 1984 interview:

Yeah, there’s a change [in me]. [Being a rich man] doesn’t make living easier, but it does make certain aspects of your life easier. You don’t have to worry about rent, you can buy things for your folks and help out your friends, and you can have a good time, you know? There were moments where it was very confusing. […] I don’t really think [money] does change you. It’s an inanimate thing, a tool, a convenience. If you’ve got to have a problem, it’s a good problem to have. […] Money was kind of part of the dream when I started. I don’t think…I never felt like I ever played a note for the money. I think if I did, people would know, and they’d throw you out of the joint. And you’d deserve to go. But at the same time, it was a part of the dream.

At the end of the day everything about this album is iconic, right down to the album art (didn’t know this was an Annie Leibovitz photo). This is America, or at least part of it, enshrined in music form, and one of the best rock-and-roll albums of all time.

10. No retreat, baby, no surrender.

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brilliant stuff.

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You can’t start a fire
You can’t start a fire without a spark
This gun’s for hire
Even if you’re just….

Ok cheers bye :wave:

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don’t reckon that ever stopped, eg drake- scorpion had 7 singles

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  • Born in the U.S.A.
  • Cover Me
  • Darlington County
  • Working on the Highway
  • Downbound Train
  • I’m On Fire
  • No Surrender
  • Bobby Jean
  • I’m Goin’ Down
  • Glory Days
  • Dancing in the Dark
  • My Hometown

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Yeah, apparently, the cassette was so lo-fi and quiet that the record company really struggled to get it onto vinyl in any sort of listenable way.

You can sort of hear it in places too, where the vocal saturates the tape slightly. That’s a positive to my mind though!

This isn’t necessarily totally in the spirit of the thread, but as we are talking BITUSA, I feel the need to share this performance I did a few years ago with some tape loops and a home-dubbed cassette of the album I found in the street. I was rehearsing for the gig and grabbed the nearest tape to make sure my mixers were routed properly, but then the Bruce sounded so good I had to use it. Lots of slowing down, looping, some FX. It’s quite rough and noisy, but playing around creatively with some of these songs really made me appreciate them even more: I’m On Fire in particular sounds even more uncanny slowed down, and the chorus I’m Going Down makes a wonderful loop. Apologies for JAGin’ the Bruce thread, but I thought one or two people here might get something from this.

RIYL the idea of Born In The USA playing through several badly damaged tape machines.

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This sounds interesting, will give it a play

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I do like BitUSA but his voice goes into a weird, nasally hurdy gurdy at points (this hard land/darlington county etc) sounds like he is trying to put on a countrified persona to sell his songs of 'murica

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TBF, he starts to do this a lot from hereonin!

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Yeah jumping ahead a bit but some songs on Tunnel of Love - if you take away the synths are very very country

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Finished the Born to Run book last night, really enjoyed it. Wouldn’t call him arrogant or anything, but given how confident he is in what he does, was surprised at how modest he is about his voice in particular. Called it basically a bar-room singer voice, like have you heard yourself in full flow man?

Could also have went into a bit more depth on some of the albums, but I suppose a lot of the time there isn’t much to say beyond “wrote some songs, recorded them in a studio”. I may have missed it, but I think the book skates by Lucky Town/Human Touch without even mentioning them by name, just briefly mentions that he put together another band and toured with them for a bit. On the whole, an enjoyable book though.

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Let’s get some scores up for Born in the U.S.A. then.

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10/10 for me.

As others have said, a formative album from my childhood, the one that got me into Bruce, and one that never fails to make me happy when I hear it.

Unlike others, I really enjoy Darlington County and Worling on the Highway. Great fun songs - basically the pinnacle of the silly bar band rock songs he was trying to write on The River.

I’m on Fire and Dancing in the Dark are incredible. Few song writers could produce anything like those two songs in their lifetime much less on one album.

The end of My Hometown almost makes me well up, particularly since I became a father. Fantastic way to close the album.

More generally, a massive shoutout to some brilliant posts in this thread. I’ve got 5 or 6 books on Springsteen (not that I’ve read them all, mind) and I’m learning things every week. I’m hearing unrelased material I’ve neve heard before, and loving it, so thank you. Just wish I had time to watch all the live footage being posted (I’ve got every officialky released Bruce DVD, but sadly rarely am able to make the time to watch those, much less anything else :cry: ).

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OK, here’s my hot take. For me both Born In The USA and Nebraska are both 10’s, and the core of Bruce’s career. They should be understood together, as two sides of the same coin, in many ways opposites but also fundamentally similar, each shedding light on the other. As has been widely mentioned, they came from the same pool of songs, and many of the songs have existed in both solo Nebraska mode and full-band USA versions. The themes of disillusionment, and small lives shaped by larger forces run through them both, and Bruce’s songwriting has reached an incredible level: these lyrics are mostly short and simple, but they suggest so much. He’s learned how to boil down what he wants to say to its essence.

The fact that Bruce can so perfectly pull off both the dark-solo-folk perspective and the massive-anthemic-rock perspective on this material is incredible, and maybe unrivalled. Also the fact that he did choose to make these two very separate albums, rather than mashing them together into a River-esque double, was a really bold move. The existence of Nebraska leads you to read USA differently, points you towards the desperation of those characters. But the energy and big-rock approach also really suits the darkness of the songs by allowing for catharsis and release. And damn, are there some hits on this record.

I love so much of Springsteen’s work (Darkness is another stone cold classic), but I think of the Nebraska / USA pairing as the pinnacle, a point where he is just untouchable. And of course USA was such a colossal cultural moment, which imbues it with extra contextual meaning (and means you might actually hear it on the radio!)

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A break from studio recordings now, into a collection of how the E Street Band sounded live over the previous decade. This is (sort of) the end of an era - there would be a bit more touring, and some E Street members would pop up on recordings here and there, but they were largely done operating as a recording band until the new millennium.

Bruce Springsteen & the E Street Band

Live/1975–85

(November 10th 1986)

Thunder Road
Adam Raised a Cain
Spirit in the Night
4th of July, Asbury Park (Sandy)
Paradise by the “C”
Fire
Growin’ Up
It’s Hard to Be a Saint in the City
Backstreets
Rosalita (Come Out Tonight)
Raise Your Hand
Hungry Heart
Two Hearts
Cadillac Ranch
You Can Look (But You Better Not Touch)
Independence Day
Badlands
Because the Night
Candy’s Room
Darkness on the Edge of Town
Racing in the Street
This Land Is Your Land
Nebraska
Johnny 99
Reason to Believe
Born in the U.S.A.
Seeds
The River
War
Darlington County
Working on the Highway
The Promised Land
Cover Me
I’m On Fire
Bobby Jean
My Hometown
Born to Run
No Surrender
Tenth Avenue Freeze-Out
Jersey Girl

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