Couple of E Street members played on Bat out of Hell if I’m remembering correctly.

(I first bought Born to Run when I was about twenty and didn’t listen to it for years precisely because it thought it sounded too much like Meat Loaf)

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Yeah, Max Weinberg drums on several tracks (including the title track and ‘Paradise…’) and Roy Bittan’s distinctive piano is all over that album. Interestingly, these were the 2 newest members of E Street who got on board for sessions for ‘Born to Run’ (and a couple of years before ‘Bat Out Of Hell’)

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Born to Run was a specific influence on Bat Out of Hell - this is from the Guardian’s obituary for Jim Steinman, mentioning Todd Rundgren (who produced Bat Out of Hell):

Rundgren also believed that the album was intended as an affectionate parody of Bruce Springsteen’s Born to Run, a huge hit during the period it was recorded. You could see why he came to that conclusion. Steinman was a Springsteen fan – employing members of E Street Band on Bat Out of Hell – but loved him because he thought he was “showbiz”: “All the people around him will tell you that he’s ‘real’ and he’s ‘street’ and he’s ‘grit’,” he scoffed. Bat Out of Hell shared both Springsteen’s subject matter – small-town angst and dreams of escape, teenage romance – and his love of Phil Spector. But Steinman’s approach was closer to that of one of Spector’s girl-group svengali rivals: Shadow Morton, the alcoholic mastermind behind the Shangri-Las’ incredible mid-60s singles, a series of outrageous teenage melodramas on which parents were defied, bad boys lusted after and umpteen mangled corpses plucked from auto wrecks, all set to sound effect-laden productions, the sound of someone gleefully vandalising the Wall of Sound.

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Okay, this is my first full proper listen to Human Touch. I’m nearly at the end, Real Man has just started. What’s happening.

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Oh boy…!

Okay, initial thoughts are going to be quite vague because I’ll need another few listens to pick out highlights - the album is too long for something that’s lacking in great moments, that’s the first issue. Only The River has been a longer album so far, and that justifies it far more than this.

Human Touch (the song) pretty much picks up where Tunnel of Love left off, and is a good start - a little sanitised, but a good song. Then a lot of the guitar driven almost-rockers are pleasant enough songs, but they’re landing squarely in a kind of Mark Knopfler, Mike & the Mechanics, dadrock, MOR place. There’s nothing jumping out as too exciting, and while Bruce is on good form vocally, he doesn’t sound too excited either.

Not entirely sure what Real Man was (I looked it up and it’s been performed 12 times, none since '92, which for a guy who performs as many 3+ hour concerts as Bruce does isn’t a ringing endorsement), then Pony Boy is a classic example of “new father records nursery rhyme for newborn child, and for some reason assumes others will want to hear it too”.

Will listen more and pick out some higher points through the week, but if I’d been a reviewer at the time I would almost certainly have used the line “can’t start a fire without a spark” at some point.

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Actually wouldn’t mind ‘Pony Boy’ if it followed an outstanding penultimate song but, as it was, it followed one of his absolute worst and just leaves you perplexed.

All of his final album tracks up to this point are outstanding when you look at them- ‘New York City Serenade’, ‘Jungleland’, ‘Darkness On The Edge Of Town’, ‘My Hometown’, to name a few. Interestingly, he pulled a similar trick later on with the ‘Seeger Sessions’ record.

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In fact, having just listened to the final 3 tracks on the album (following ‘I Wish I Were Blind’, which I think is pretty good) ‘Pony Boy’ is actually more pleasant than I remember.

Think that says more for the quality of the preceding tracks than ‘Pony Boy’ itself though.

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Oooooooooooooooooooooof.

It actually sounds like what people who don’t like Springsteen think all his stuff sounds like.

Not really any lyrics jump out as being worth a damn, there’s nothing interesting happening in the arrangements and the recording sounds slick and cheap. I wanted to give it a really good listen, maybe familiarity would warm me towards it. I like revisiting albums with awful reputations and finding worth there but I’m two listens deep and think it’s mostly a stinker. It’s not even as if I hate it, well except for Real Man which is a garish, blaring horror. It all just plods so hard, I swear I Wish I Were Blind lasts for 10 minutes. The Long Goodbye is only 3 and a half minutes long? Shut up, no! can’t be. There’s a sad dearth of highlights.

On the up side I think Pony Boy is rather sweet, really simple and none of the wankiness of the rockier numbers. Does it fit with the surroundings? Nope! Is it a great closer? Nope! Do I want to hear it again? Errrr ok, sure why not. I like Laura Veirs album of kids songs and this reminds me of that. With Every Wish is my favourite song here even though I think Bruce loses interest in the lyrics about half way through and it’s somewhat flimsy. Nice trumpet.

Isn’t this supposed to be the good one of the pair?

Gulp

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I think it was the more successful of the two, but Lucky Town is held up now as being the better one.

Phew

And even if it isn’t better, it’s 20 minutes shorter

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Definitely better. I’d even say it’s a little underrated in Bruce’s canon. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts next week.

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Midweek poll:

  • Human Touch
  • Soul Driver
  • 57 Channels (And Nothin’ On)
  • Cross My Heart
  • Gloria’s Eyes
  • With Every Wish
  • Roll of the Dice
  • Real World
  • All or Nothin’ at All
  • Man’s Job
  • I Wish I Were Blind
  • The Long Goodbye
  • Real Man
  • Pony Boy

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No bonus listen this week, we’ll throw in the MTV Plugged live album next week seeing as it covers material from both Human Touch and Lucky Town.

A proud vote for good old Pony Boy :racehorse:

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Tunnel of Love - really enjoyed this, much more than when I first heard it. Guess I’m older and wiser now, although it’s one of those rudderless middle-age albums that I love but also hope I never 100% relate to, y’know? “Tougher Than the Rest” is the pick of the bunch for me, @wikihock nailed it with the “perfect first dance at a second wedding” line. Trust Bruce to make his mid-life-crisis divorced-dad album… not cool exactly (I don’t think he’s ever been cool!) but kind of wistful and stoic and not a total downer. Having said that, I love how unashamedly mopey the last three tracks are.

Human Touch - had never heard this until an hour ago, and was expecting a totally checked-out snoozefest based on the thread so far. But I was pleasantly surprised! Bruce and his merry band of faceless sessions musicians are really going for it at times, albeit hampered by some very 90s production (plus the E Street Band are sorely missed, obviously). The vibe is very “I’ve achieved everything I set out to do, now what?” but it could have been a lot worse - take it from someone who made it through the Neil Young listening club. He could have tried his hand at world music or hip hop or something.

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ha! I’d sure fancy the rudderless middle-age of being one of the most successful musicians on the planet. (I know what you mean, though)

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I’m sure there was a lot of this going on at the time

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He did make a quote unquote hiphop album in the mid-90s that has never seen the light of day. Think it was more samples and loops than full on Fred Durst, and afaik the only thing that has emerged from it is ‘Streets Of Philadelphia’, which is top tier stuff so…

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TELL HER THERE’S A SPOT OUT ‘NEATH MATTHEWS BRIDGE

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