That is 100% more agreeable and justifiable IMO.

Luckily straw men are a fire hazard so aren’t usually welcome in cafés.

They’ve got an open fire and a pub dog and they sell tunnock’s wafers and all of their prices aren’t rounded up/down to the nearest 10p so it’s like £2.87 for a pint or £1.13 for a lemonade or something. Very great place imo

But surely you can appreciate that lots of other parents might not be in exactly the same boat, may not have the bodies, means, time, or ability to process the same calm logic as yourself for whatever reason?

a sign would be fine but depending on how desperate/antagonistic I was I’d still potentially chance it. My niece is 5 in a couple of weeks and is perfectly able to sit up and have a drink/cake/behave. My 2 year old normally is as well.

These kinds of things can be managed in other ways - this stinks of a publicity stunt and also stigmatising parents and their children.

Open fire - Quite nice
Pub dog - Very wonderful
Tunnock’s Wafers - Would prefer a Taxi
£2.87 for a pint - Don’t care
£1.13 for a lemonade - Do they offer a cloudy option?

A man made out of straw is equally as flammable as a newspaper and cafes love to have newspapers in them so don’t be stupid please.

Last time I went in they had cloudy lemonade (bottled), no idea how fizzy it’d be. Only clear from the gun

you’d have to go to Colchester though and no one wants to do that.

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Sounds like a nice place in that case, can’t imagine I’ll ever go there in my life but cheers for the heads up anyway.

I think you’d be surprised just how few parents are as considerate as you.

Nonsense.

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That’s a stupid post IMO

You’re undermining every point you’ve made in the thread with this, man.

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Worked at a cafe for 2 years and spent a lot of time cleaning up after peoples’ kids. For the place I was working it was massively worth it for the weekday business, but I can understand why a place would ban kids if they’re gunna be busy anyway, it is definitely a lot more work for the staff (caused by the minority of parents obvs)

We’ve covered this elsewhere before but nobody in their right mind would choose the version of a thing without the chocolate bit in the middle if it wasn’t for the daft twee, dangerously-nationalistic attitude towards the Tunnocks brand that you’re all wrapped up in.

I was under the impression that we were saying parents with young kids may have reason to be inconsiderate sometimes and that we should just have a bit more empathy with them where possible?

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I tried to skirt round this because there’s enough going on in this thread already but that’s just fucking daft Ant

I mean: let’s take a typical CCB visit to Nando’s. In a restaurant like that, the chances are that they’ll be (maybe) eight or ten families in there on a busy Saturday. And I can’t remember the last time I noticed a kid kicking off in there, or running around, or anything. In fact, the last time I noticed a family kicking off in a restaurant, it was the parent and not the children.