#304

And still you’re giving nothing at all. That might not be exactly what you’re saying, but it is generally accepted that cultural appropriation is often racist.

Do you really not get it? Or are you being deliberately obtuse?

#305

And it may not have been in it’s intention. It’s the refusal to acknowledge that it may have seemed that way that’s doing my noggin.

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#306

But @meowington did, and surely lots of people explaining to her why it wasn’t isn’t the correct answer. We are still talking about people being sensitive with the language they use, right, or have we moved on to something else?

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#307

Yeah, that’s fair enough. I suppose the reason I’m picking up on that point specifically (marckee saying that word was of African American origin) is because I saw the questions asking where the word came from on the way down the thread, and had marckee not responded, I would have. I’d have used similar words as well, and I’m not sure what would have been an appropriate response instead.

#308

Please don’t go meow

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#309

Well a significant reason why threads like this spiral out of control is that we all have our own personalities and writing styles, and sometimes even when we’re acting true to type and in complete good faith then those can rub a nerve on someone who’s feeling exposed, or even under attack. So sometimes even simply stating what you think as a dispassionate argument is not necessarily the best course of action, This might be the internet, but it isn’t life and death and sometimes the best option is to put a sock in it.

Which is what I’m going to do now.

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#310

fuck sake love island finishes and this is what happens

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#311

So I actually did some work today, and have just come to this thread a bit image

I just want to check that I’ve not misunderstood anything, as the bit where @marckee mentioned “cis-” has really stuck in my craw:

Looking up “cis” in this thread, the only thing that I can see referring to it at any great length in a “how it’s all just so silly” way is possibly when @meowington said “I’d never heard the term cis before then all of a sudden we’re all cis”. On its own that doesn’t necessarily read brilliantly, but it’s part of a thread that is pretty much the opposite of what he’s talking about.

{whole thread - hidden for brevity}

I just wanted to check if this is what Marckee thought of as being “dismissive of a whole strand of progressive discourse”, because as far as I can tell nobody in it approached the idea of ‘cis’ dismissively in that subthread.

atm I personally feel a bit irked on that basis, as it was fully not how I was approaching it (can’t speak for anybody else, but I don’t think @aggpass is either), and I can fully understand Meo being upset, as that is how Marckee’s post comes across - certainly to me.

I may well have misunderstood it, though, in which case I’m happy to be corrected. Marckee’s usually alright…

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#312

Having read it back, I don’t think the word ‘cis’ was being treated in the same way, so apologies for that.

#313

Framing that :grin:

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#314

There’s actually a badge for that.

Not joking.

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#315

Uh oh

#316

@marckee - for someone who’s apparently so invested in being woke/an ally/calling out privilege, you need to check your own privilege. Speaking to @meowington like she’s a silly girl who is either aiming to cause drama rather than engage in a debate, or or is too dumb to understand what people are saying, is textbook sexism (as well as generally being rude and patronising).

Guys are constantly doubting our intelligence, questioning our motives and trivialising us; we don’t need supposedly enlightened men on here reinforcing the insecurities that come with a lifetime of that.

Please consider your own privilege in discussions. Calling out other people’s doesn’t negate your own.

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#317

When you see that big red “D” typing at the bottom of a heated thread…

#318

Sorry this is one of the best posts I’ve ever read on here :heart:

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#320

I was thinking the same. For a moment I forgot I was on DiS and was looking for the retweet button.
Edit: Before anyone starts, I obviously can’t relate to a large part of this Pervo’s post but doesn’t mean I can’t agree wholeheartedly with the sentiment.

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#321

I guess marckee has just out-woked us all.

#322

How do I get this badge?

#323

Threads like this make me feel old

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#325

It’s ok to be old though.

Hopefully we will all be old some day :slight_smile:

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