I’m not on Twitter, or Facebook or anything else.
DiS is about as social as I get.

I dunno, I just feel that we’ll look back on this thread in the same way that we look back on the first SSP thread.

Rubbish. Nothings happened here.

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Might go either way.

We could all be today’s version of “but I thought I was meant to say coloured”

Or

The wokelings might realise that this is gonna cause them problems when having a go at terfs.

What do you think has been said that’s wrong?

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Mainly just how the thread has become (white), privileged people joking about the terms woke and cis and how it’s all just so silly, without really investing any time to see whether they’re just dismissing a whole strand of progressive discourse, in the same way that people joked around about the idea of SSP and its name.

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It’s like… that Overton Window thing shifts so subtly, yet so completely, that every single one of us, without question, is unconsciously displaying a huge number of prejudices today that’ll be viewed as monstrous by future generations. It can’t be helped. It’s just what happens.

I sometimes feel like those who strive to be “woke” are simply striving to be “on the right side of history” so as to eliminate any chances that they might ever be viewed as anything less than virtuous. It’s impossible, somewhat puritanical, and a lot of the time it feels like you’re being told WHAT to think (rather than HOW to think).

Many will view me as a monster for the above. I’d say “you can’t win,” but that would imply that the whole thing’s a game. It isn’t.

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I’d never heard of it till this thread either. I avoid twitter though, obviously.

Oh come off it. You’re reaching quite a lot here and being incredibly accusation and essentially suggesting we’re all homophobic, transphobic AND racist.

No one is dismissing any strand of society. Asking about where the term cis comes from is not joking about it.

Please pick some examples from individuals if you’re going to charge in and suggest these things.

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awaiting further beeves but you’re all typing very slowly.

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Absolute clash of the titans as well, figure they’ll build this for a PPV

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Once again, you’re (deliberately?) misconstruing what people say to stoke up some BEEVES. I didn’t say that people were dismissing a strand of society, or that anyone was homophobic, transphobic or racist.

Individually these posts might not suggest much, but collectively they suggest a snarky dismissal of a whole strand of discourse and way of expression, as well as playing to a crowd:

She isn’t though

There’s always a defensive/denial phase with stuff like this.

I’m just going to assume that in 2 or 3 years time everyone in this thread will look bad and someone will drag it up as an example of how awful we were.

Well this time I want in on the ground floor.

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I will not use this term to describe my wife again.

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UH?! Can’t believe your quoting me - that was me being genuinely honest saying that sometimes I struggle to keep up, and sometimes I’ll read threads on twitter and be like ‘oh I had no idea’. I dont get how this is supposed to be snarky or dismissive, I’m sure there’s a lot of people who feel the same way.

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He’s a bit of prick?

Just woke up and it appears its all kicking off in here…

I call the woman i married by her name. Refer to her as my partner or wife or sometimes her indoors for a chuckle. (the chuckle being she goes out more than me)

I get what you were trying to say, and that’s fine, but it’s the way you treated the word as a plaything that, in context with the other posts, makes it seem like its a bit of a joke.

oh goodness

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FFS. You can’t respond to everything I am saying by saying I’m deliberately trying to start beeves! I’m not. I’ve told you I’m not in other threads. Maybe you need to look at how you’re posting/reading me if this is how you feel.

But you’ve just pulled out people talking about the word woke and you’re suggesting we’re all gonna look back and be ashamed we spoke about the use of the word woke.

What does woke mean to you? Where does it come from? It is part of the normal vocabulary of twitter when any serious discussion takes place which is what our convo was. Wanna take part in the discussion or do you wanna just barge in and shame us all?