Car / Driving thread (rolling) 🚗🛣️🚦⛽🚗

the bus i get on mornings i go into the town is an ICE bus, and it’s nice inside, but it jolt and judders the way that the old buses used to. it’s note ideal, espesh when seeing the load of EV buses.

have you seen the depot in govan hill? so many rapid chargers

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Not seen it in detail, just in a couple of snapshot PR bits.

Really looking forward to what I presume will be significant engine noise reductions in town when the LEZ enforcement comes into play in the city centre.

Yeah feels like the hybrids came in in Ken’s time and have been fleetwide for a while. I do like it when it’s coasting on the electric, nice and quiet.

You used to get the occasional London bus in Manchester that had been grabbed by one of the many many companies running too many busses up Oxford Road. They would screw plates in over the join of the exit doors in case of the driver accidentally using them :joy:

Actually easy just to not notice entirely because you got used to not expecting it. Occasionally they wouldn’t recover the seats so seeing the LT pattern was the giveaway.

I recall one time saying to a (northern) mate that if they had the extra set of doors why not just use them and his claim was, “People would just go in there and not pay,” which was obviously a bit baffling to me given it didn’t really happen in London but hey…

London buses have the two doors due to passenger numbers and passenger flow, which isn’t needed as much on buses in other cities.

The other consideration is passenger safety, especially in bus stations. Bus stations outside of London are typically designed for single door loading and unloading, with the intention of keeping passengers out of certain areas, eg the reversing out apron. This means they’re usually the drive-in-reverse-out type, with longer layover times (eg Leeds)

In London, bus stations are usually drive-in-drive-out type, to allow for people to unload and load at the same time, using both doors (eg Walthamstow)

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Take it to the Bus / Passenger thread (rolling) :bus: :busstop: :cityscape: :traffic_light:


(Interesting stuff.)

Buses have two doors here and we’re not even London!!!

Feel truly blessed to be honoured with magical Londonness

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We have buses with two doors in this shitty rural backwater too! Oh how London I felt this morning exiting through the middle door!

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They’re all on the number 6 in Birmingham - think they missed a trick not branding it as The Electric Six, sticking ‘Danger! High Voltage!’ labels all over it, etc.


I’m sure it’s pretty standard in loads of places. The Melbourne buses are one deck but two sets of doors.

I did like how in Manchester you got to say ‘thanks’ to the driver as you left but it was a pain in terms of numbers of people getting on an off. Personally I think the passenger amounts definitely warrant two sets of doors in at least the more popular Manchester routes.

One cool thing about Melbourne is the public transport system is actually a single entity for the whole state of Victoria so it’s a bit like being able to use your Oyster card to travel from your house in London to visit a mate’s house in Birmingham (Victoria is 0.57 the size of England according to a stat I found on online just now).

The problem is that adding an additional set of doors reduces the capacity of that individual bus, and so you have to get more buses, and run at a higher frequency to cover the difference. Outside of London, the system of bus management is so broken and underfunded that this is very hard to do.

Bring back trams I say.

Edit: is the Leeds tram idea still a thing? When I still lived there 10+ years ago there was loads of chat about a line going out past the universities to Meanwood. Shelved now I guess.

They’ve started talking about it again this month

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Very disappointed that wasn’t a link.



This is like when someone takes a joke seriously in a newspaper article and then it gets made into a serious Wikipedia entry because it has a newspaper citation.

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Take it to the Jokes Workshop / Meta thread (rolling) :performing_arts::recycle::clown_face::left_speech_bubble:


Car drivers, please use this poll to select the two most common hands on the steering wheel position you use when driving.

Numbers relate to clock face.

Two hands:

  • 10 and 2
  • 9 and 3
  • 8 and 4
  • 7 and 5
  • 12 and 6
  • 11 and 1
  • other (please explain)

0 voters

one-handed driving:

  • 12
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
  • 6
  • 7
  • 8
  • 9
  • 10
  • 11

0 voters

The ‘other’ is 3 and 9 but with my hands on the ‘spokes’ of the wheel, rather than the outside of it