#335

Is this a thing then? I’ve heard this mentioned a few times.

#336

CDRs though, right? So almost certainly already degrading. So many of my old discs of live stuff with my band or whatever would maybe play 2 tracks before just becoming skip hell.

When I first burned CDs I remember thinking it was hilarious that even care about that 5 year limit. Nuts that 1999 me didn’t care at all.

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#337

As I understand it any stuff released on vinyl in those days was mixed separately to emphasise low-end and reduce top end. Not really sure but anyone I’ve ever known in the industry says the masters have to be completely different.

Certainly I own The Paisley Reich on vinyl and created the MP3s from that due to being told the CD version was mastered to be stupidly, unlistenably loud. (Also it has a pattern on one side that is very cool.)

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#338

I was referring to the length of the albums, bonus tracks on CD only, hidden tracks on CD only. Albums being sequenced with less regard for “sides”. Plus CD was just the dominant format, or felt like it anyway. Nevermind on vinyl seems a bit wrong to me. Most people in the 90s I knew bought music on cd, and if they couldn’t afford cd they bought a cassette. Vinyl collectors were unusual (or dance music DJs)

#339

Imho the move away from vinyl and the fact that albums weren’t limited to forty odd mins is one of the worst things to happen to music in the 90s. So many more bloated records than when space was a factor.

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#340

DJs probably kept vinyl alive didn’t they.

I used to buy a mix of cds and vinyl in the 90s. Records did tend to be a little cheaper and then it just depended on what the shop happened to have in. So i don’t really have that associating a particular format with a particular album.

Second half of the 90s I moved to somewhere that had one small music shop that was cds only so just forgot about vinyl for ages.

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#341

Agreed. So many albums with all the hits front loaded and then just drag on too long. I’m bored of modern records being spread over 4 sides with only 2 or 3 songs a side too

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#342

tbf, a lot of vinyl pressed in the 90s was shit. Flipsy discs, cheap pressings. All the fault of the industry though, who were doing their best to kill the format.

That said, some of my most valuable LPs are from the 90s (probably because there weren’t many pressed). Different Class by Pulp, the first two Oasis LPs and Mogwai Young Team all go for over a hundred quid according to Discogs

#343

Vinyl Records are extremely limited in the amount of ‘data’ they can hold in that there is only so much VOLUME they can contain (as well as Frequency response which is why Vinyl is scientifically inferior to digital for accuracy) in the 90s and early 00s in particular music being produced with LOUDNESS in mind where every record wanted to be lounder than the last in order to stand out on the radio whilst it was being played and to stand on the tannoy of a supermarket or HMV etc. As a result these recordings typically sound worse on Vinyl which isn’t able to ‘cope’ with the amount of vibrations held in the groove and the more out of control the stylus will vibrate often resulting in blown out bass and increase sibilance

Here is the science behind it

#344

Its usually the mastering that brickwalls the dynamics giving that super loud sound

Im pretty sure all recorded music is mastered seperately for vinyl ( a vinyl master and a cd master) so there is no reason that the vinyl should have a real issue

#345

From what I understand that wasn’t often the case in the 90s/00s. Much like early in the CD life CDs were using Vinyl masters early on which was part of the reason digital had a bad reputation to begin with.

#346

A Times New Viking record being unlistenable?

(Kirk shocked)

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#347

When I left the UK, I made the decision to give away / sell every CD, DVD & book I owned unless they had a specific sentimental, irreplaceable value. No regrets.

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#348

I have a feeling it was you or Bamos who warned me

#349

I always ordered vinyl of these 90’s albums but they took an age to sell back then.

Oasis 2nd album we shifted 100 & 10 free CD albums in a day, (for every 10 pre ordered we got 1 free). 4 vinyl albums took a month to sell.

#350

The short Spanish interlude on my first copy of Hello Nasty appeared as a kind of mid-album pre-track that counted down to Remote Control. I remember ripping it to my computer and the software not being able to read the track meaning my MP3 album missed it out. ‘This shitty computer-based technology will never take off’, I thought, committing myself to buying CDs for the rest of my life.

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#351

Nice. One to file alongside Takk and Melon Collie in the list of “albums I own which are theoretically worth a decent amount of cash but my copy is probably a bit fucked and realistically I’m not going to sell them anyway.” According to discogs, Government Commissions is also worth a bit.

One strange fad I remember from the mid 90s was limited pressings of albums on vinyl in a plain black sleeve with a sticker on the front and a copy of the CD inlay stuffed inside. Not sure if it was just Island who did this but I’ve got a copy of dEUS’ Worst Case Scenario like that and I remember seeing others at the time.

#352

My first CD player is still in use as the main music system. I bought it in 1991. All working - CD, cassette, remote control. It’s a monster with an XTRA BASS SYSTEM.

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#353

My mum had a small portable one like this and of similar vintage. It’s got some garish yellow / turquoise type colour scheme, it’s very very early 1990s.

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#354

The strange thing is on the 2 or 3 occassions I saw them live there was no distortion to speak of.