Classics / Canon edition of the DiS Hip-Hop Listening Club

think this is the best video for 90s jeep action

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LOVE that track. I see Nine had a new album out recently. Didn’t check it though.

Didn’t know! I’ll check it just based on his voice alone.

This weeks pick should be coming in later today.

Oh, my mistake - he actually had two! The 9 Commandments and King. Produced by Snowgoons, which is what put me off giving it a go.

:roll_eyes: snowgoons

Alright I have @thought_dreams pick ready to go but I’m going to hold onto it until wednesday so we can have a full week with it.

In the meantime… two massive albums turn 25 years old today (Midnight Marauders, 36 Chambers) so I thought we could listen and discuss Midnight Marauders for the next few days (we’ve had plenty of Wu discussion on other threads imo):

A Tribe Called Quest – Midnight Marauders

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Yeah - pretty good album, this.

:stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

This is 25 y/o?? JFC :tired_face: Think I bought it on the day it came out too (in the UK anyway). Memory is fading though cos I am obviously really, really old.

Best Tribe album? Best Native Tongues album? Come @me bros

Actually pals, I’m gonna make a thread for this album, hold please.

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A Clan Called Wu - Enter The Marauders
This really works!

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Oh this new Masta Ace album is actually really great, easily among the best boom bap of the year. Real nice surprise

Could do without the corny skits as with all his 00s output but a really solid one rapper/one producer album

Juvenile – 400 Degreez

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pick courtesy of @thought_dreams

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So I thought this would be an interesting pick for a few reasons. The first being that I think it’s just absolutely sick, still sounds totally fresh to me, but I also think it’s an important record.

This is the album that launched Cash Money’s, and by extension Southern rap as whole, total dominance of '00s hip-hop. But in the shadow of stars like Lil Wayne its easy Juve’s huge influence and legacy.

Everyone should know the two absolutely massive singles but the rest of the album bangs too. Tunes like Flossin Season and Rich Niggaz (Mannie’s hardest beat?) are just as good and although its maybe a tad overlong there’s not much i’d skip.

Maybe it’s a bit rockist but I’ve always loved rap albums with a single producer and Mannie and Juve have a particular synergy. Reading this Mannie interview is totally fascinating and helps explain why they’re so totally in sync. Instead of Juvenile writing to already made beats, Mannie crafted the beats for especially for Juve’s raps and hooks. I’d always felt there something pleasingly off-kilter about these tunes but it took ages for me realise it was because Juve couldn’t count bars and Mannie would just cut the beat to whatever length he felt like rapping for!

It also sounds so uniquely New Orleans. Obviously there’s the bounce feel running throughout the beats but there’s also something bluesy about Juve’s flow and cadence that seems to channel the spirit of the city. He has that cool ability to wring melody out of his flows and hooks in a way that really set the trend for a lot of rappers in recent years. Crazy that he was only 22 at the time but sounds so wise and world weary.

Although it’s very much Juve’s album its also a showcase for the rest of the Cash Money crew. It’s cool to hear Lil Wayne sounding so young and still honing his craft, reminding yourself how great B.G. was and reminiscing about the time when Birdman actually rapped and wasn’t just a pantomine villain.

Lots more I could say but lets just appreciate how great the Ha video is.

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Aye good stuff. I’ll have more to say in a bit.

always been fascinated by early cash money but never really gone further than early Wayne. no time like the present to correct that eh

Same really. Not even Wayne though. I lumped these guys in with No Limit as the people with weird ads in the back of The Source. Just never really got along with it for reasons we’ve chatted about here before. I did like ‘Ha’ though, and records like that were clearly an influence on stuff I do like, like the early wave of grime, so giving this another go.

Still maintain that if you missed this stuff in ‘da club’ or in a car with a heavyweight sound system then it won’t resonate the same way. Remember hearing tracks like ‘Ha’ at an especially moody Westwood thing in Hammersmith Palais and it made more sense.

Weird that the version on Spotify is censored. I was surprised to see that I still had a ripped version in iTunes.

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It’s cool that people haven’t heard this. Interested to see what you think.

Yeah it’s super annoying. Back That Azz Up doesn’t really lending itself to a clean version right? Shold be easy enough for people to download or there’s dirty versions of most of the tunes on youtube.

LOL. I guess that’s cos they both had Pen & Pixel doing the artwork right? Can’t think of many other artwork designers who’ve had such a lasting impact on rap icongraphy.

even the explicit version is weirdly censored in parts (e.g. the chorus of gone ride with me). also it’s too long and, as great as ha is, I don’t really need three different versions of it… BUT the slaps are undeniable aren’t they. obvs the two big singles are monsters but rich ns, follow me now, juvenile on fire, and the title track are all great too

solja rags is also v worth a listen if you like this. guerilla warfare too