Concerts in the metaverse / hyperverse / VR

Have you ever been to one?

Does the idea hurt your soul?

I doubt a DiS community hang out would make sense in any of these spaces but maybe I’m wrong?

I’m fascinated by things like Spotify creating an island in Roblox and the huge sums artists have made doing ticketed shows in places like Fortnite

Trying to find some interesting ambient music experiences

Curious how this wander around a music video / spatial sound browsing experience will turn out

https://twitter.com/alivemusic_eth/status/1520049767115546625?s=21&t=iTK-YhAHbKa1ySUjssqk8A

Couple of interesting reads if anyone thinks I’ve gone crazy

https://meagan.mirror.xyz/kUmuLvRKFs6CimhFGVmlP7kBHPKCswPra_U05Clwncw

I think we should be more resistant to modern fads, not because they’re modern, moreso because they’re largely just really fucking shite.

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Noooo thanks. So much of a live show is physical for me, in many different ways. Watching what essentially amounts to a livestream feels totally joyless as a ‘concert experience’.

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Watched and enjoyed a lot of livestreams over the last few years. Can’t imagine anyone I like would jump on this train though.

I’m at one just now. I’ve been trapped in here for days

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Think that’s just the primavera bar queue m8

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Music Will Be the Gravitational Force Driving the Hyperverse

This is literally just some words that sound vaguely futuristic when put together without actually meaning anything isn’t it.

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I’ve tried a few prerecorded live shows in Facebook’s VR Venues app. You basically stand on a digital balcony and watch a poorly recorded video that fills your entire view from the balcony. The thing is the gig hasn’t been recorded to look like the viewpoint is the same as yours, so you see lots of intercutting angles and closeups, so nothing feels like it’s ‘real’, it’s just a bit disorientating and annoying. If they filmed so it felt like it was recorded at the same viewpoint as your avatar then it would feel more immersive.

Plus other people wanting to virtually talk to you during the gig is just as fucking annoying as it is in real life.

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Briefly got excited that Boards of Canada had announced a new album when I read that

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Dr. Spaceman in the Metaverse of Madness

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No.

No.

And no.

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Feels like this belongs in the Blockchain grifter thread

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Is this like that strange Everything Everything virtual show from a year or two back, where people were simulated as avatars in the crowd in a venue watching the band?

This could work? But the tech needs to make a fucking massive jump and that’s going to have to extend to the consumer devices too.

Long long long way off imo

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Really like that video in the tweet in the OP. Quick montage of the history of music formats up to now, looking good, leading up to…

Genuinely quite bad.

the first fundamentally new way to consume music since MTV

I mean, I’m into the idea of online “art happenings” in theory but find the idea of a concert online extremely naff. Feels like a corporate cash in on the tech rather than a creative thing done by creative people. Concerts and gigs are an inherently live experience and I would be much more up for a ticketed online experience that was inherently online, if that makes sense. Something that couldn’t feasibly be done any other way.

I guess the analogy would be that computer games tell very different stories to books, which tell very different stories to films… or at least tell stories very differently, which is why successful crossovers between mediums are so tough. For example playing as Master Chief is an empowering experience, whereas watching a guy being hard in a green suit for an hour is kind of just a bit humiliating.

Now what this new form of inherently online expression should look like I don’t know, but it can’t just be paying to watch a video link to something that would be infinitely mores special in meatspace.

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…but also, maybe music isn’t the best media for those new types of experience anyway

Whilst I don’t disagree with this, the tour circuit has really contracted over the last 20 years, and a lot of people simply don’t live near where bands play anymore. Stuff like this has real potential to make live music more accessible.

I understand that argument, but still feel like it will never be a live experience. Just like internet pornography doesn’t make sexual intercourse more accessible, although it does allow people to witness sexual acts that they might never perform themselves. It doesn’t mean that it wouldn’t necessarily be an entertaining way to experience music, but it isn’t the same thing.

Maybe one day it will be - maybe I’m reaching that age where cynicism bites in and I can’t possibly envisage how good tech will be in the future. Maybe the VR experience will be a genuine simulacrum of reality, but for now it doesn’t feel much more than an Youtube video with 3D glasses.

(not sure it is relevant but I grew up in Plymouth, so am well versed in live acts not playing anywhere nearby)