#158

I mean if she’s turning that sarky view on someone like Osborne I’d imagine almost everyone’s going to enjoy it :smiley:

#159

Oh yeah. When she turns her gaze to parochial Tories and Nigel Farage etc. I’m sure there’s no problem.

#160

The Times being awful:

#161

Turning and turning in the widening gyre The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world

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#162

I mainly meant to draw attention to the jez colouring book

#163

I actually own that. It’s in my flat.

#164

Commentators like Marina Hyde remind me of some academics I’ve met - they all have a blithely arrogant sort of indifference to their own privilege and affect an air of the wittier than thou, left wing bohemian raconteur…yet every so often you see the real them peeking through - reactionary centrists obsessed with career advancement and morbidly afraid of the working-class, secondhand smoke, the lack of cycle lanes in their area, red meat, and brown people gathering in groups of two or more. I’m not saying Marina Hyde is a closet fascist, but I am saying she’s definitely a closet fascist.

At least George Monbiot just goes full on REPENT THE END IS HERE

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#165

needs more Corbyn football chants, if you ask me

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#167

EIEIEIO up the polling charts we go
When we win an election, this is what we’ll sing
We are Labour. We are Labour. Jezza is our king.

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#168

generally in favour of Marina Hyde, for the sarkyness, but these things always depend slightly on your own personal investment in the thing that’s being skewered. Same as any ‘sketch’ writer, which is kind what she does.

++ there will always be the Brexit Flotilla day. I’ll always have a soft spot for her and Michael Deacon because of that wonderful, glorious day…

#169

Yep. That’s it.

#170

Actually had some respect for the Guardian as one of the few intermittently sane voices in the Britiah press. Their behaviour over the last year has soured me on them. This article is hilarious:

#171

I only read part of that properly earlier (it was quite dull to be honest) and just skimmed the rest. To be honest, I actually agree with part of what she says in that the NEC should be there to hold the leader and party as a whole to account.

Trouble is she’s coming from an angle that ignores the fact that the NEC as it is has already proved itself bluntly not fit for purpose on that front - too many decisions are quite obviously already being made based on political viewpoint rather than the merits of the matter in front of them. If it’s the highest decision making body in the party it’s members need to behave in an independent way when making decisions as NEC members, and too many of her colleagues really don’t appear to be.

#172

woah that’s my friend’s sister. didn’t know she worked for the BBC.

#173

The Sun on Corbyn:

https://twitter.com/mcfuckingduff/status/781500024328974336

Well, that’s us told.

#174

Late to this, but just wanted to confirm that I despise Marina Hyde. Absolutely typical of the privately-educated liberal bubble that so many journalists live in. She’s able to be snarky and sardonic and above-it-all because she can afford to; politics is a game to laugh at and sneer at to her, not one that actually makes any tangible difference to her life.

Also she comes across as very stupid when her snark is directed as something that she simply doesn’t understand e.g. the entirety of left politics.

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#175

Got really angry when she sent a tweet praising this (gobsmackingly awful) interview & attacking Malia Bouattia. When you take an above-it-all perspective on almost everything, but draw the line on something as innocuous as safe spaces/NUS politics, then you need to take a look at yourself

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#176

I don’t particularly like Bouattia but fuck me, that interview and BTL section. Under no other circumstances would you ever get an interviewer whining about getting rescheduled, or resorting to shouting when you get stonewalled. And then have the fucking balls to describe her as fragile and vulnerable.

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#177

What an absolute clusterfuck of an interview.

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#178

Agree. It’s fair to say that about what the NEC’s role should be but the rest of it is typical Labour right tbh tbf - things are wonderfully swell and democratic until democracy works against them. We saw it with Corbyn’s campaigns; he starts pulling ahead amd suddenly it’s not the will of the people, it’s entryists and Trot saboteurs, and their opinions aren’t opinions, they’re harassment and bullying. It’s been a sickening year and a bit for anyone who gives even a vague shit about left politics.