Corbyn (May, June)

falafel?? i would associate it more with the old ‘tree hugging wishy-washy liberal’ stereotype far more than the middle-class avocado and coffee stereotype

to be fair I haven’t heard of it so would assume it is pretty middle class.

yes it is a sad state of affairs, but a white english person stopping to think about, engage with or respect another culture’s food is pretty middle class.

bet like eating fish and chips in China is a pretty middle class thing to do.

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that poster is definitely 100% trying to say “corbyn = badass hippie”, nothing to do with middle class-ness

There’s an argument that it’s irresponsible to push for a plan if you don’t understand it enough to know why it might not work.

can’t get them here. It’s not disinterested, it’s lack of exposure.

well it applies to many things, but mainly I was talking about Bugduv’s refusal to engage with an issue that he apparently cares a lot about. He is very pro-Corbyn but refuses to engage with how incredibly difficult the task is that his blind enthusiasm has set for the man and the party.

Well obviously not, but it’s a rare situation that’s improved by dilettantish pricks talking a big game then acting all confused when it doesn’t work out according to what their mates had told them.

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Yeah probably better going with the torys then…

Jess Phillips needs taking down a peg or two

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A cut-out and keep guide

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Thing with the poll averages at the moment is they’re out of step with how quickly things seem to be moving during the campaigns - they include polls from a fortnight ago (or a month in some cases!) that are out of step with this week’s trends.

Mind you, there is the potential for the narrowing to unwind before polling day - still a while to go!

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Anyone know how Corbyn is doing at winning back Scotland? Not anecdotally but with polls and stuff.

Where Labour is making gains in potentially far more important than that they’re making them at all. Kind of worry that, in Tory strongholds, people who would have voted for anyone other than May will club together to vote for Labour out of desperation, causing the popular vote for Labour to rise but making absolutely no change to the outcome in terms of seats.

Still incredibly nervous about the kind of Tory majority that we’re going to see tbh.

Labour is finished in Scotland for a long time and Corbyn can’t change that. Both Scotland and Wales are relative strongholds for the Labour right, and all the young people in Scotland who could have potentially changed the party structure there are much more bothered about independence and are almost certainly voting SNP. Nationalism is more important to them than socialism.

Despite it’s origins, falafel is still seen as a vegetarian metropolitan elite thing by many who want to trump their working class credentials, especially if it means that they can have a pop at Corbyn.

I continually think about Michael Foot’s quote about not seeing a landslide coming because everywhere he went he packed out village halls, met adoring crowds etc. The Tories are going to win, I’m just hoping it doesn’t turn out as bad as that.

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Yeah, this is how I understood it. Which is part of the reason why I wonder where Corbyn’s gains will be made and if they’re the kind of gains in popular vote that can be translated into seats or not. As we’re all well aware, a party almost as popular as another can do incredibly badly within our electoral system.

I blame myself for not anticipating a topic on JC would end up discussing falafel’s place in society, I really do

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this may be why the left never make any progress at the electoral level tbh.