#127

Ah yeah, okay. Doesn’t link to any obvious other accounts but then he’s using an obvious troll email site so I’ll keep an eye on him.

Cheers.

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#128

I’ve despised Oasis for years. Last year I decided to give them one last chance, so I asked a friend for all of their albums.

I thought I’d start with Heathen Chemistry and Be Here Now. My reasoning was that, if those albums do anything for me, then there might be something worth investigating further.

Well, they were terrible. Really, really bad. But more than that, their music’s scary - it’s uncanny - so much stuff going on but no soul to speak of. It’s like having a long chat with someone but only realising after an hour that they’re a robot. It’s nostalgic rock music polished til its gleaming, but weirdly stripped of anything that makes music worth listening to. I can’t even put my finger on what’s missing.

#129

In fairness Noel Gallagher would probably agree with you there - in that documentary that was out about Christmas time he said calling it a day after the first two albums/Knebworth etc. should’ve been the course of action.

Still think there’s a couple of good tracks on Be Here Now; ‘I Hope, I Think, I Know’ and ‘Don’t Go Away’. Others are OK but about 3 minutes too long.

#130

One thing I’ve never understood is them being called Beatles knock offs. I mean, they write simple melodies and dressed a bit like them, is that it? Can’t hear any other similarities

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#131

I couldn’t tell you.

But remember Star Stories - the weird fake documentary impression show with Kevin Bishop? The Paul McCartney episode showed some “studio footage” of The Beatles. They were dressed in their Sgt. Pepper’s garb. And the song playing in the background? All Round the World by Oasis.

Not sure what point they were trying to make.

#132

i don’t follow get the logic of trying out two of the worst albums to determine whether the better ones are worth listening to

you should have just stuck on The Masterplan

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#133

Call it a baptism of fire.

But also, I’ve heard the “big songs” on their first two albums countless times. I wouldn’t have learned anything by hearing them again, and is it really worth sticking around for the deep cuts?

#134

gave it a listen again last night. first 3 tracks are fantastic, 4th is pretty good, 5th is decent enough, 6th is fairly dull, 7 is great, 8 is boring, 9 is good though should be a bit shorter, 10 is obviously a bit boring and way too long though i don’t think it’s the worst thing on here, 11 is alright i guess, 12 works well enough as an outro, although we’ve already had 9 minutes of the same song.

in summary, some great stuff on there but some uninspired shite as well. shame.

#135

hmm haven’t listened to the first two in a while but pretty sure there are some decent album tracks on there, to be fair. like i say though, The Masterplan is a b-sides album but was always my favourite thing they’ve put out by a comfortable distance.

#136

listened to it loads when it came out (this was when i properly got into them) but another one i haven’t listened to in years, apart from a couple of tracks. Force of Nature’s still alright, used to love The Hindu Times but it hasn’t held up particularly well. looking at the tracklistings i definitely think Don’t Believe The Truth was stronger overall (apart from fucking Lyla).

never gave the last album a listen beyond the singles but it sounded potentially decent so i might belatedly investigate.

#137

Best bands/greatest bands threads normally have a huge streak of “no you’re wrong about Radiohead in them”. Nice to see “critics being wrong about things being bad” creating a similar streak of pro-Oasis. :smiley:

@Gert not sure Oasis were described quite as Beatles knock-offs. It was definitely more at 70s rock vibe they sounded like, but I think Noel was openly a big Beatles fan and a lot was really about: a northern guitar band who were blowing up very very quickly and becoming popular than anything else. Later when it was Oasis v Blur this obviously led to Beatles v Stones stories so it kept getting pushed.

#138

nah they do get called Beatles rip offs pretty regularly tbf.

their idolisation is clear but i’m not sure it comes through in the music much at all. obviously The Importance Of Being Idle = I’m Only Sleeping, but it was around long before that too. Maybe Setting Sun = Tomorrow Never Knows is another factor even though it’s not even an Oasis song.

#139

Whatever was based on that The Rutles song and All Around The World sounded like an attempt at doing Magical Mystery Tour as well, but I didn’t really hear it much either.

I think generally the band had so little imagination or genuine interest in music (beyond being rock n fookin roll stars in a band, maaaaan) and so their frame of reference was so narrow that the only group they could really keep banging on about with any degree of regularity was the bloody Beatles.

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#140

Importance of Being Idle was the Kinks rip-off one wasn’t it?

I think if people call them Beatles rip-offs it’s more a kneejerk response to the mid-90s I was referencing but also, partly back then too, I think a lot of people don’t really know what the Beatles sounded like. I mean they know some songs but unless you’re quite sure of your bands there is a certainly amount of ‘this is like the Beatles’ when you compare Oasis to other popular music at the time, I guess?

Either way you’re right: they’re not really anything like The Beatles in terms of sound in those early years when people made the comparison.

#141

Interestingly this is almost exactly how I feel about Isn’t Anything.

#142

I prefer it to Loveless. But that’s more about production things.

#143

Actually had a rethink of Beyonce’s stuff myself and I honestly don’t get it anymore. Don’t think there’s much melody to what she does and all the vocal acrobatics are there to hide it. Reminds me of people who can shred on guitar but can’t carry a tune for love nor money.

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#144

I’ve never really had an interest in the Manics and don’t know much of their work but yr post makes me want to get into them. I like their early attitude and really enjoy the tunes everyone knows. Plus Judge Yourself is a banger obviously. I feel like there’s a big gap in my musical knowledge when it comes to them however.

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#145

how has a discussion about who Oasis ripped off failed to mention Cigarettes and Alcohol being a direct rip off of T-Rex? i mean, it’s not a homage it’s a rip off… still a great tune tho

#146

I love a bit of tuneless guitar shreding myself

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