We’re going slightly off topic here but I packed in the booze completely in early March. The gains have been noticeable.

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No point losing weight if I’m just going to get stabbed to death by Mrs F because she can’t blot out how annoying I am of an evening with beer. :smiley:

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I’d been the same weight for the best part of 10 years and then lost about half a stone when I first started cycling towards the end of last year… But most of it seems to have gone back on - Probably just started eating and drinking a bit more shit to compensate for the extra exercise haha.

The fitness has definitely gone up and up and up though.

Yeah same with me I’m almost eating more rubbish now than I ever did before but I’ve lost over two stone.

Not complaining tbh :joy:

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To some degree you’ll have replaced fat with muscle, which is denser. That’s certainly happened for me, my thighs are a bit thicker and my waistbands aren’t complaining like they were just after Christmas.

But bodies are weird things and one of the things they are hell-bent on doing is maintaining your weight, so you’re right: if you put enough calories in then your body will do its utmost to store as much of it as fat as it can manage until you’re back at the same weight as when you started. For me it definitely is the booze; that’s just a massive calorie pool to draw on. I can be quite good at limiting my food intake, although this year I have shifted slightly more to eating before riding, whereas I used to commute into work on an empty stomach in the past.

Really interesting to see people’s views on ‘rest days’ given the chat upthread.

It’s not an issue for me at the moment as I’m working all hours but in the summer holidays I tend to try to pack a cycle into every day where I possibly can.

I have an Oura ring which is mainly a sleep tracker but it monitors your heart rate while you’re awake as well, gives you movement and exercise targets etc. It’s very keen on the idea of taking it easy quite often which I find I want to ignore if I’m trying to make the most of decent weather / time off work but then I notice I do go further and faster (and have a better time) if I do take days off. How does everyone else square this circle?

If you read anything about cycling and getting “fitter” then everything will point to rest days being essential. Your body needs time to recover and adapt, just look at the pros having an day off a week during grand tours (I know they’re on a whole other level but the concept still stands, and even then they do an easy spin rather than fully rest).

Personally I can go for days / weeks without needing much of a rest, because most of the riding I do (/did) was endurance level efforts. That did come to bite me in the arse when I tried to ride across Wales the week after a 600km audax when I’d clearly not recovered, and also when I got a knee niggle in the middle of last year after doing a 300 and then a 200 in the space of a few days. But doing things like LEJOG which was about 160km a day for 9 days, I felt the best I’d ever felt afterwards. Sure I had a day or two off after, but then I was back to ~300km weeks. It just felt fine to me, my body got used to it 🤷

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I think one of my great strengths as a cyclist is I have no trouble taking plenty of rest days

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Ffs - tried to go strava stalking to follow @tilty and @urbanfox but all I managed to do was accidentally unfollow @plasticniki :man_facepalming:

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I turned most of my Strava notifications off a couple of months ago after I did a notification clearout. My phone just seemed to be going off for one reason or another all the time.

Since I did my shoulder in not having constant reminders I should/could be exercising has been a good thing. I haven’t dared to weight myself since though :grimacing:

Coming up 4yrs of rest days for me :see_no_evil:

In terms of rest days it’s interesting. I remember before wfh when I was bike commuting everyday that I used to feel like I needed a rest at the weekend. So didn’t do many leisure rides.

I didn’t like that so then I tried to slow down my commute pace and keep a bit ‘in the tank’. But in reality I don’t think I was doing enough miles for it to be an issue, prob more just work/life tiredness. The commute is more exhausting when you add in getting 2 kids fed and dressed then doing a nursery and school dropoff before riding to work…

Since wfh I noticed the dropoff in fitness and actually then struggled to match my weekly milage in leisure rides. At least though I go to do regular more interesting weekend rides instead. Well, untill I fell off :see_no_evil:

Wondered wtf was going on there

lots of interesting discussions today :smiley:

Strava is a funny one for me. It’s never made me feel the urge to go out and clock up the miles or days spent on the bike; I have a mileage goal for the week/year but it’s relatively arbitrary, and although I get sad a lot about not being out on a bike it’s because I’m not on a bike rather than because I’m not hitting those targets.

That said, Strava segments are different; I do chase PRs and KOMs constantly, there’s no point in pretending otherwise, and when some rando (or particularly) one of my semi-official club pals (we’ve started a wee club, but it’s still pretty informal - looking into getting jerseys made soon) either beats my time or takes a KOM from me it’s very much “game on!” in my mind and I will go out and try my best to smash it when time, weather and my legs allow. I can see how it would start getting obsessive for people but thankfully I’ve never gotten to that stage; overall I’m doing it to better myself and a PR is the most important thing - if chasing an impossible time gains me a few more seconds then I’m so happy.

This all suggests that a lot of my cycling is done for training or performance (meant in the ‘striving to improve and do the best i possibly can’ rather than ‘showing off’) sense, and again it’s true. It is at odds with a lot of people, but in my relatively short cycling journey I am learning that what you enjoy doing on a bike is the most important thing; those things might be the same as other folk and they might not but that doesn’t matter. I do have lots of bike anxieties it is true (you’ve all seen me post about those) but they’re more about not feeling confident as a group cyclist, bike maintenance and other things that the putative “perfect cyclist” can do and I need to learn “it doesn’t matter”.

I am very time-limited for cycling at the moment thanks to my job, and it’s a bit of an MH drain. I lose an extra 2 hours a day compared to my old job due to the long commute, and my free time is now almost never at the times of day I’d find it most useful (I basically do not have weekday evenings any more, which is really hurting me now that summer is here). Because of that lack of time I’m probably spending most of my bike time doing “hard” cycles; I love going for nice easy pleasant cycles but I also love pushing myself to the limit on a bike and if I only have time for one I’m going to focus on the latter. Getting fitter is important to me, and I do slightly lament the loss of fitness I had compared to last summer when I was on furlough and had all the time in the world to cycle. Interestingly, that loss of fitness (which Strava says is massive, >50% in a year according to their graphs and however they calculate those odd metrics) hasn’t manifested itself in terms of endurance - that’s noticeably gotten better this last year. High end stuff, though, like big and repeated VO2+ efforts has seen a massive drop-off in fitness though. I’d like to get it back but it doesn’t bother me too much ultimately, and I’m not going to hurt myself or neglect other aspects of life to chase ultimately arbirtrary and meaningless goals. As long as I am enjoying my cycling all is good, and I really really love my cycling just now.

Rest days - yeah, I have too many of those for my liking just now, enforced partly due to a mix of job, shit weather and laziness. Still, I do consider them very important for myself and I don’t go near my bike if my legs are telling me not to. Rest days when you’re getting in all the cycling you’d like are amazing; enforced “oh god, not another washout” days are not. This is why I love Zwift so much and continue using it in the summer - what with bad weather and odd working hours it means I can still cycle when the urge is there, even if the outdoors doesn’t comply. Some weeks I don’t get home from from work until 11pm but because of my night owl body clock I’m absolutely buzzing and desperate for a bike - this is when Zwifty races are my saviour and I love doing them so much. I know Zwift and indoor cycling has a mixed response here, but that’s fine - I genuinely love it but understand why folk don’t. Overall, everybody should enjoy their cycling the way they want to enjoy it, and try not to worry about what other people are doing :smiley:

(sorry for the essay, I am in a bikey rambly mood because I just got back from doing the Bealach na Ba and it was the most amazing thing I have ever done in my life :heart_eyes:)

(Just saw the topic of Strava notifications - I dunno what is available or what you can turn on or off, but all mine does is tell me when I’ve received kudos, gotten a comment or completed a challenge. Definitely nothing peformance or stat related other than the challenge thing)

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You have, by far the quickest time of anyone I follow up there. So so impressive :fire::fire::fire:

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Aye this is it isn’t it. I used to be a big avocate of there is a set way to ride a bike or train or whatever, but as you get into it, it really doesn’t matter what’s going on as long as you’re enjoying yourself. When it stops being fun, that’s the line. Cycling should be fun and accessable to everyone. We all have (had in my case) our own reasons for riding. Mine was exploration. I just wanted to explore the local area, and as my fitness increased the further i could explore. Turns out I was pretty good at cycling between like 2009 and 2015, but after my 5 peaks epic in 2015, cycling stopped being fun and the less enthusiasm I had to swing my leg over the crossbar.

Never say sorry, we all like chatting shit about bikes. It’s infectious in a way. Hope you’re doing ok on your bike trip man

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thanks Niki, that means a lot as I am so in awe of your cycling achievements it’s untrue :smiley:

Today went perfectly really given the circumstances - I had to start late to let the cloud and rain clear up which meant not having time for the full Applecross loop, but apart from a shower at the very beginning I had perfect weather and all the views I could’ve wanted so the wait was worth it. I wouldn’t have forgiven myself if I didn’t try to take a proper dig at the climb so that was focussing on legs, traffic, gradient and nothing else :laughing: but I knew I’d be coming back up the other side so had a lovely slow descent down the way I came with loads of stops for photos and admiring the view.

(I got soooooo cold on the descent down to Applecross, despite donning my waterproof for extra warmth. On the way back up the sun had properly come out so the waterproof was back in the jersey, then the jersey came off to remove the base layer and tie that round my waist as well :laughing:)

strava reckons ive had rest days for 236 of the last 239 so watch out. probably very fit rn

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My Strava was sending me notifications when someone I followed (or at least some of them) had done a ride/run/swim as well as my kudos and messages. And zwift then did the same, for favourited friends. Was too much.

You also have a great knack for photos on rides! So jealous of your trip. Looks mega.

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