#168

Meant to say after the first paragraph that it might be quite thought provoking and I can see why he felt he actually had to use the word to bring out the full meaning and depth to show that just because racism gets more polite doesn’t make it any better. But perhaps it’s a bit ahead of its time and I wouldn’t use it again after reading this response.

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#169

(Again, I haven’t seen the routine, so can’t comment specifically, but…)

See this is the thing. There might well be some contemplation on his parents’ approach. But it’s difficult to believe that that’s The Joke. Because, again, DK’s material (that I know of) doesn’t tend to be a succession of JOKES.

I thought Stewart Lee had put this nonsense to bed - not all comedy is a series of Tim Vine puns, or Little Britain catchphrases.

“Aaargh, the Lefty Liberal comedian said a word, so they’re basically Jim Davidson or Chubby Brown, who the Lefty Liberals hate.”

I blame the Guardian for eating itself. The sooner it fucks off, the better.

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#170

I can’t remember the sequence which it came in which isn’t helpful, is it.

#171

(Got a lot of time for Tim Vine, by the way - the references here are intended to highlight stylistic differences, rather than ‘DK’s great, they’re shite’. Not a particular fan of MacIntyre or Miranda, but they clearly have a talent that appeals to many. Little Britain is clearly… problematic. JD & CB: likewise and moreso.)

#172

Just remembered that Daniel Kitson left Phoenix Nights and fell out with Peter Kay over a storyline that he (rightly) thought was a bit borderline racially.

#173

Didn’t know that.

What do people think of this, many years on?

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#174

Thought it was kinda racist at the time.

Still think it’s kinda racist.

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#175

Oh he was Spencer! Turns out I do know who he is.

What was the storyline?

#176

Japanese cooks wasn’t it?

#177

I think it was the two Chinese ‘stowaways’.

Edit: my god they weren’t actually Japanese, were they? Does this make me a massive racist?

#178

:joy::joy::joy:

#179

I find it so strange how the connotation behind a word can be changed by the way it was originally used in a derogatory manner, but for example if you call someone a Brit or an Aussie there is no connotation.

#180

Hmmm.

#182

Just to be clear I am saying it is bad

#183

Really glad you bumped this, pal.

#186

Wonder if this would have been as divisive here if it had been another slur steeped in historical racism and prejudice thrown about by a white person for a laugh.

#188

Oh really. Thanks for covering in my absence

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#189

I accused you of being a bit harsh on him before anyone else had “descended” on you (i.e.- disagreed with you) so it’s weird you’d try to frame the thread that way.

#190

Give it a rest.

My bumping thank was, of course, ironic.

#191

And no that’s not a threat just a plea for everyone to just let it lie