#443

Placates the soft brexit tories. Let’s them spin the ‘we wanted a deal but the nasty EU wanted to punish us’ line after. I guess

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#444

The sole purpose of Brexit, from a political point of view, at every stage, is all about getting the Conservative party out of a hole of their own making, and surviving to the next day, usually by treating it as a PR exercise above all else.

If they’d always been intent on a No Deal, and told the EU27 that, then the EU27 would have just stopped negotiating as soon as they heard - making it clear where the fault lies.

By stringing them along it allows them to paint the EU as the people behind the failure to secure a deal, it placates the non-ERG MPs in their own party and the less strident parts of the Tory commentariat.

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#445

I should clarify that: Rees-Mogg is saying that it might take 40 years for ‘voters’ to feel the benefits of leaving the EU.

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#446

Got a mate who’s a spook, and he definitely thinks so

#447

For Jacob and his nanny probably about 6 minutes.

#448

I mean it’s kind of flawed, gov blaming the eu for failing to secure the deal in negotiations that the gov didn’t want in the first place but at the same time, it sounds about right.

I guess it might help a few people who want to do a few shorts too, but that’s incidental.

#449

not that type of shorts

#450

No worries at all, that’s pretty much how it came across and I thought it’s a fair point to question why GDP is useful when it comes to looking at what sort of motivations the government might have in the negotiations.

The thing I’ve been mulling over is the UKs ability to service its debt which was never really in question as a supplier of one of the worlds major reserve currencies but that report and Moody’s recent downgrade have made me wonder :thinking:

#451

It’s things like the debt servicing issue that really do make me think, what is the reasoning behind this? And it always comes down to the same two things: Either the government are so incredibly stupid as to not be able to look beyond their political fiefdom, or it’s a grift on some level. (Or I guess option C, which a tasty blend of both)

Given the prevalence of Rees-Mogg ideology (and progeny) in government, I’d say grift with a sprinkling of idiocy personally

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#452

Pfft, credit ratings haven’t mattered since… ooo… May 2010…

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#453

Just an embarrassment of a country

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#454

It’s noticeable how they pair the really embarrassing ones with pictures of royal kiddiewinks.

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#455
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#456

Bit worried about all this

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#457

Gunboats to protect the fish? Has the navy been taken over by PETA?

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#458

At least we’re getting some practice in?

#459

this is the absolute real quiz innit.

#460

Some journo should just kick him in the shins every time he lies

this whole ‘I didn’t say that’ while being shown a video of him saying precisely that is the entirety of Tory politics right now

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#461

It’s trump psychology and any second now he’s going to be the only western leader trying to make it work while it’s been proven not to by trump himself (although it certainly secures loyal cult followers)

#462

I think he should be made to always wear a large hi-vis jacket, (a) so everyone can see him coming, and (b) because the rustling really highlights how flustered he is

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