I’ve been groped at more gigs than I can count, but I got flashed at a gig for the first time last year. I just couldn’t believe that someone had the nerve to turn around and flash me in the middle of a very busy crowded room and no one said anything

it’s really awful, I think about my interactions with women and just thinking that I’m a decent person so obviously I mean well isn’t good enough.

There does seem to be this dodgy perception that music belongs to men and women are just playing at it and don’t really understand it on a deep level.

Ah just the whole thing is terrible, I’m sorry!

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I’m sorry you got flashed, and no-one said anything.

Why can’t we just be allowed to go to things and have a nice time, without someone deliberately spoiling it, and trying to humiliate us?

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it’s like your living on a hostile alien planet :frowning:

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nah it’s worse than that.

sorry I will leave your thread now.

Thats why Trump being elected is so scary, because a major world leader is advocating and partaking in this behaviour, and a large number of people either support his actions or are prepared to ignore it.

I don’t blame anyone for giving up on life.

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A guy at work assumed I was a poor student and offered me some leftover rolls from a work party to take home…cause I’m poor. I’m fairly certain I get paid roughly the same as him which definitely is not poor.

I laughed in his face and was thinking “mate if only you knew how much I spend on toast”

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That I’m moody, arrogant and rude. And they’re not fucking wrong!!11

I remember I went to see Le Tigre in 2001, when I was about to turn 17. One (straight) male friend in our group said afterwards that he had felt really uncomfortable and unwelcome at the gig, like he wasn’t supposed to be there and it wasn’t for him. He was quite surprised when I and another female friend said that’s how we felt nearly all the time at gigs. It had never happened to him before at the age of 19. It really didn’t help that I was going to see a load of post-rock and post-hardcore bands at the time, and the whole thing was just a total sausage-fest. It was rare for me to see a woman on the stage, and that was in big acts like Sonic Youth. I can’t even think of any I saw at a local gig. Not one.

Also I remember how nice it felt when I went to see Toro Y Moi, and the crowd looked like the mix of people you’d see on the street outside in London, the same mix and proportions of genders, races etc. You get way too resigned to just seeing this sea of white men, and I think it always puts you slightly on edge. Like you might be “allowed” to be there right now, but actually you’re kind of on the edge.

you’re welcome at my fictional gigs that I will never play!

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I am less shy than I was at 16 thank god.

so is it inferred from your posting that you make music as well? Must be tough.

Not for other people’s ears.

that’s fine, no problem.

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I assume so

Goes both ways!

im not a veggie

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No idea what the assumptions are - there must be some tho

:thinking:

Pre beard and when I sported a center parted Brian Molko circa 1996 Bob, got mistaken for a women a fair bit, even after people heard me speak. Happened a lot at school too because my name ends in an A, a few months ago I lost my driving licence card and someone posted it back addressed to Ms. Also get the age thing a lot, think the secret is a complete lack of facial expression, can’t get wrinkled if I never move my face. Going a bit grey now and have an old worn down look