#21

WHAT

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#22

swear to god there was a level headed answer in the beginning and now we’re headed for a 50/50 split

I think we should have a running percentage of how many of us believe in reality on the frontpage at all times

#23

what is pain?

#24

You can either choose to believe Ubik is real or just ignore it, but it’s all the same at the end of the day

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#25

pardon me

#26

It’s a big country in Europe that borders with Portugal and France

(And Andorra. Sorry Andorra)

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#27

Never heard of Ubik? We talk about Ubik all the time

#28

from a Philip K Dick book

#29

Oh yeah, ubik, I know ubik, Hahahaha, ubik!

#30

I don’t read porn sorry

#31

Eet eez, ow you saye, bread

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#32

I mean objective truth definitely exists. How much of how I experience or interact with it via choice or ignorance is subjective and socialised

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#33

I just say bread but without an accent because we don’t have accents in Northants

#34

that’s a Schrodinger’s cat and a half

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#35

Don’t apologise to me, apologise to yourself for denying that pleasure

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#36

I mean if you think it does but none of us can ever comprehend it, it might as well not

#37

You’re not wrong, but might as well not isn’t the same as not

#38

agreed up until the point it’s imperceptible or unknowable I think

#39

It is literally impossible to know or to tell, isn’t it :slight_smile:

So I can act as this means my experiences are entirely arbitrary or that the consistency they have is indicative of an objective truth beyond my self. Obviously the whole thing can be a construct entirely of my own making, who is to tell?

However, my experiences have shown me that treating reality as a construct has severe negative effects on my ability to function. I’m not talking about doing random things because I don’t think consequences are real, but rather, mentally untethering myself from my sensory inputs causes me problems. Even if objective truth is not a thing, that would still hold true and I like to try and enjoy my experiences rather than be damaged by them.

Honestly I’m a fence sitter but literally the only person benefited or disadvantaged by me choosing to believe or not in objective truth is me. I’ve spent too long in my life pondering unknowables and I’m going to regret some of that time on my death bed, so I’m going to do what makes me happy.

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#40

In retrospect I should have realised a relationship was doomed when we started arguing about of Bush did 9/11 and her argument became one about the nature of truth and how, because I couldn’t know for sure he didn’t that means he did.