#11

Some people seem to think Twitter accounts are more reliable than a guy on spice in Piccadilly Gardens hanging out of a phonebox with his pants down shouting his pound accy tips at you.

Mugs.

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#12

There’s a lot of kinda similar stuff that happens in a more mundane way as well, in that you get these stupid fan accounts who post all the super basic footy bantz stuff from an ‘Arsenal fan perspective’ or whatever, and get retweeted by all their super basic twitter mates who have 000’s of followers. The aim is to basically reach over a certain number of followers (say 50k), at which point you can start making money off betting companies by posting about your accumulators or whatever. Obviously, the more followers you have the more money you get for it.

Would be properly small fry stuff except these accounts’ followers will mostly be kids. You wonder what that generation’s relationship to gambling will be like when they grow up.

#13

Yeah. From what i understand they were buying the data of people who’d requested exclusions from gambling sites, and the sites weren’t extending bans to users who signed up by these affiliates. Think they were also letting people sign up just by changing freemail addresses, etc.

#14

:tea: :coffee:

#15

Was reading an article about this on Football365 that suggested it’s properly easy to edit screenshots to make it look like you’ve won and/or exaggerating the odds that are available on certain bets. And not just on a “I’m good at Photoshop” level, but literally just changing a bit of the source code. Suggests that loads of these accounts have been at it, was certainly how @FootyAccums got caught out.

#16

Obviously all betting advertising/marketing in this country needs to be seriously looked at and restricted, but I find all the social media chummy banter shit (paddy power seem to be the worst, but they’re all at it) particularly nauseating.

#17

Yeah I started following a few of these on twitter y’know. I never bet on football but, y’know, the odd tip here and there might tempt me. Soon realised there was something not quite right about them. And now I stay away from the whole business. Who’ve you got you’ve got TheSpainTrain, Bet Club, ThePuntersPage, a few others… I dunno which ones are legit or not.

One of them the other night was tweeting a few receipts of people who’s smashed thousands on France Luxembourg and saying “spare a thought for these poor lads”. I passed up the opportunity.

#18

what do you mean legit? as in gives you consistently sound (yet free) betting advice?

#20

Yeah or aren’t a twitter arm of a bookies, using the platform to a) tweet special offers/enhanced bets or b) doctoring receipts and the like.

I don’t care - like I say I don’t bet on football aside from the obligatory twice yearly bet on Man U Liverpool.

#21

FOBT’s are horrendous. Quite an easy way to win money, but also ridiculously easy to lose loads. They exploit problem betters, no doubt about it. I’ve seen people put literally thousands of pounds into them. There are limits technically now, but people just move along the machines, and the staff are trained to turn a blind eye.

They should either impose serious limits on them - maybe compulsory registered cards and daily limits, and/or limit each shop to one, not four. Until a few years ago i think only one bookie was allowed within a square mile of another. I could walk to fifteen now, no exaggeration.

A good start would be some high profile Premier League clubs ditching official betting partners and shirt sponsors. It’s frighteneing how quickly it’s crept in. Most football fans now see it as part of the experience.

#22

Put it all on red

#23

I’ve seen people walk into a bookies with a pile of money, put £100 on red or black five or six times, win nothing and walk out.

Imagine being that casual about losing that sort of money. I’d be an absolute mess.

#24

Harsh on Bugduv

#25

Skybet has stopped it’s affiliate scheme.

It’s mental that if you sign up to an affiliate they get a % of all your losing bets not just the ones they’ve suggested

#26

It’s a start i guess.

Find Sky quite problematic, though, in that they make the news up then accept bets on it. They argue the two are completely seperate entities, but that’s cleaerly not the case. They shouldn’t be allowed to give odds on transfer markets.

#27

The conte leaving thing last year was proper bizarre wasn’t it

#28

Oh yeah them controlling the news therefore the odds and profitting from it is completely mental

“Sky sports sources understand” > Get money > Odds come in> That’s now the story >More bets > Get more money > “Skys sources believe Norwich have reject the bid”> Profit

#29

I went to a dodgy casino in Nottingham on a stag do once. Set myself a £20 limit and stuck with that…but there was this guy literally going between the roulette table and the cashpoint putting down a couple of hundred quid on red/black, losing it and doing it again. It was so fucking bleak.

#30

Seeing as this is a twitter thread of sorts - the lad who was spokesman for a bit for your man Jez is heavily involved in the campaign to restrict FOBT stakes. Give him a follow https://twitter.com/mattzarb (he works for the Campaign For Fairer Gambling). He’s also written a few really good articles on his own gambling addiction which are worth reading.

fwiw I think that restricting FOBT stakes is essential but the other side of it, restricting winnings, is also quite important. The single biggest influencer of someone becoming a problem gambler is them having a big win off a small stake within their first handful of times gambling. Reducing jackpot size would help this also.

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