#50

It’s a lot more complicated than that.

First of all there is the definition of mopeds:

  1. bromfiets (yellow and black number plate) - maximum speeed of 45 km/hour
  2. snorfiets (blue and white numberplate) - maximum speed of 25 km/hour

And then, each local council has three different options for implementing cycle paths:

  1. mandatory cycle and moped paths
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    Both cyclists and moped drivers must use this

  2. mandatory cycle paths
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    Cyclists must use this, bromfiets are not allowed, but snorfiets are.

  3. optional cycle paths
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    Cyclists can use this, but they don’t have to. No bromfiets and only electric snorfiets and snorfiets with the combustion engine switched off.

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#51

do androids dream of electric snorfiets

(thanks for the comprehensive reply!)

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#52

These are the rules though, but I swear a large proportion of those yellow plate bromstards just use any old bike-way.

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#53

Found driving in France very easy tbh. The hardest thing I found was overtaking on a single carriageway

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#54

Also: being overtaken by locals on downhill hairpin bends at insanely high speeds.

#55

This is under appreciated

#56

I might rent a car in Spain in a few months.

Given I have only ever driven on the mainland ONCE (as we are all very aware), is this a terrible idea? Apparently it’s a very quiet area of Spain.

Also I think I last drove a car about 4 years ago.

#57

Afro-Eurasia is basically just a big island. You’ll be fine.

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#58

Thought so.

#59

Why not hire a car for a day here first or get a refresher driving lesson?

#60

Might get a Zip car for a bit, aye.

I have gone years without driving before. Has always been fine really. Will still get nervous. But need to get over it really. It’s only driving ffs.

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#61

i am a snorfiet

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#62

I’ve always thought that about you

#63

Last thing we need on here is a surfeit of snorfiet.

#64

Snorfiets are the good guys, they usually play by the rules and can’t go much faster than a shopmobility.

#65

My advice mind out for cyclists there always causing trouble :smile:

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#66

No they aren’t.

#67

It’s well easy, you get used to it so quickly, and the less experienced you are at driving in the UK the better, I would say (to an extent). When you pick the rental car just take it to a spin on quiet roads or around a car park to get used to things.

Also not sure why people are worried about going the wrong way around roundabouts - isn’t this virtually impossible as you are angled into th curve of them? (Usually idk).

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#68

“The word moped was coined by the Swedish journalist Harald Nielsen in 1952, as a portmanteau of the Swedish words “motor” and “pedaler”.” (the first mopeds had pedals to help you up hills, you also started them by pedalling)

#69

bromfiets literally translates as “buzzing bicycle” because of the noise they make.

snorfiets on the other hand means “quietly buzzing bicycle”. They make less noise than a bromfiets, obviously.

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