#1388

@GEOFF Also not sure what to say if you don’t think years of racist policies, hostile environment, pandering to racist sentiment hasn’t had far worse real-world consequences to the lives of millions of people than Labour’s anti-semitism problem. Where’s the EHRC investigation into Windrush? Where’s the investigation into proven tory islamophobia? What about stripping people of citizenship? What about breaking up families and deporting people to countries they have little connection to?

I’ve been the victim of racism and understand how painful and unfair it feels to be discriminated against. It just breaks my heart and frustrates me that such a narrow strip of twats get all the attention (although it is right they are identified and punished and I have absolute solidarity with the victims) while a great many others including those with actual power are time and time again being let off the hook.

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#1389

I get a bit boggled by this antisemitism issue/story. Here’s a poll to help me try and understand things a bit.

Tick if you agree with the statement:

  • There is a problem of antisemitism in the Labour Party
  • There is a problem, and it’s predominantly due to anti-Israel sentiment
  • There is a problem, and it’s predominantly due to anti-Jewish beliefs
  • Jeremy Corbyn as leader has not previously done enough to combat antisemitism in the Labour Party
  • Jeremy Corbyn is now doing enough to combat antisemitism in the Labour Party
  • The MSM have focused too much attention on the issue
  • The MSM have been significantly biased in how the issue has been portrayed

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#1390

I have personally not so I’ll never speak over you in that regard. I was reacting to the recurring undermining of the issue that I repeatedly see online (significantly lower here than other places, it must be noted) and a seeming underpinning shrug that because it’s anti-semitism, it doesn’t matter as much. I went too far and I apologise.

#1391

Yeah it’s been super disappointing to see people I usually agree with undermining the issue. Sorry if it seemed like I was doing so too, not sure my tone came across well.

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#1392

Quite good as in ‘rightly so’, or as in ‘efficiently’.

Not really too bothered one way or another, really. Just wonderin’. But I suppose I’d be quite miffed if a party declined my membership application based solely on some tweets supportive of another party.

(Especially since, and I don’t know if you knew this, but I’m not even on, etc)

And on that note…

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#1393

…and further to yesterday’s chat.

McDonnell’s Getting On With It.

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Now, that’s what I call a blinder.

Less toil, please.

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Fuck Toil (aka The Four/Three/Fewer Day Working Week Thread)
#1394

The latter.

Think it was around the time of the Smith/Corbyn contest, when there was all the stuff about trying to limit the number of recent (and presumed to be pro-Corbyn) members/supporters.

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#1395

You see this?

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#1396

Hope they found all your great pictures :slight_smile:

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#1397

Looking back your tone wasn’t bad, I just swallowed it up in the context of what I was pre-existingly annoyed about and shot out at the wrong targets. My tone was worse so I’m sorry for that.

#1398

Another day, another thing that seems like it was about 10 years ago but was actually very recent.

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#1399

“inexplicably”

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#1402

I’m sure I saw Amber Rudd being talked up as the leading contender to be the next PM last week, so she’s probably meant to be one of the better ones, which is fantastic news

#1404

it’s currently being explained to amber rudd in a quiet room somewhere why she said a bad thing

#1407

As the guardian live blog points out:

As a former home secretary, where equality and diversity issues are part of the portfolio, you would have thought that she would have known better than to use a term that, although once commonplace, has been considered offensive in mainstream discourse for decades.

Really jarring when you hear someone under 80 say it.

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#1408

Sing it!

New thread incoming…

#1409

These girls absolutely rinsed the BBC here

I’m voting for them

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#1410

I have a degree of sympathy for the lay person being unsure of the best way to put things. Preferred phrases change over time. And it’s not a million miles away from person of colour. But she’s the Home Secretary, for FFS sake.

And as I type, I see this is pretty much what David Lammy has just said.

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#1411

Incredible when you think that she was inches away from losing her seat at the last GE…

As with all Tory MPs there’s a LOT to digest on her Wikipedia page, but this is one of the highlights:

Rudd helped to find extras for the film Four Weddings and a Funeral (1994), for which she was credited as the “aristocracy co-ordinator”, and appeared briefly in one of the church scenes in the film.

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#1412

how long do you reckon this will hang over rudd while she continues signing off on state violence against minorities vs that one mathematical error still thrown like a brick at diane every time she makes any kind of public statement

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