Huge if true

How would you define the difference between them?

Are they different enough that we need the word ‘societal’ when we coped give without it until the last few years?

That’s where it is though.

Nope.

We’re going to have to look in the pudding to see who’s right aren’t we?

The phrase is “the proof of the pudding is in the eating” which makes sense. Nobody in their right mind has ever stashed a proof of something in a pudding.

I bet someone has.

Yes but not someone in their right mind.

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As a medical geneticist, I start twitching when someone (usually an athlete of some description) comes out with, “It’s not in my DNA to give up.”

DNA makes protein, variants might contribute to their above average muscular performance and co-ordination, but I’m yet to happen across a generic variant for ‘giving up’.

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Not a distinction I’ve ever felt the need to make personally

But I don’t want to clutter up the societal board with such hair splitting.

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‘Chest of draws’

Or, as i once read in a local selling page

‘Chester draws’

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that is how it is pronounced tbf

(@Epimer…)

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Only if you’ve got an idiot accent for dickheads.

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Wow, did not know this. Pretty baffling, especially with such an inconsistent language as this one.

Yeah it’s a really tricky one because today’s English teachers (like me) grew up in a system that didn’t teach formal grammar so there’s a whole rung missing from that generational ladder.

Easy to criticise the hippy teachers who got rid of formal grammar teaching but I think it came from a good place of trying to make English a more creative and more practical subject rather than the over formalised teaching of English - as - Latin that had been the norm previously.

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ah but surely that societal board sounds stupid is precisely why having the word is useful

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Huh if you say so. I feel that I manage fine without it.

Much more recently, i learned what the past participle was in French before I ever grasped the concept in English

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I never heard of the preterite until I took Spanish.

Yeah I learned lots of grammar rules in French that I never learned in Norwegian or English, but then French grammar is a whole THING so

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