Honestly I think everyone was so knackered from the previous game that no one really paid it any mind. No disrespect of course it’s just a graveyard shift going on after such an emotionally draining game for the majority of the country

Reckon Switzerland might do Spain

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I’ve heard Rabiot’s mother is pretty…interesting…before

I heard she’s in charge of all his transfers and basically caused all the acrimony when he’s left them

tbh sounds like a great plot for a French drama…Francois Ozon to direct

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Also I’m not sure what the upset with Czech Vs Denmark would be as they’ve performed pretty similarly. I guess Czechs because of the emotional factor?

Might as well post about England.

If you’re gonna be conservative and stodgy, you have to deliver results, which he’s done, so you can’t not give Southgate his dues tbh. His approach has been vindicated, even if it could’ve gone another way he’s delivered the kind of result that much more qualified coaches for 20+ years couldn’t.

Football’s a sport first, entertainment second, so being churlish about the playing style is moot - if you support England, who cares if you actually win games like that and go far in tournaments. I’d be loving it if I was raised an England fan, I’m sure.

Still, as a neutral(-ish), find it a shame I’m still struggling to root for them, even with one of my favourite-ever Leeds players in a key role. Don’t even dislike anyone aside from psychopath Mings, and Southgate is the perfect antidote to any reservations about England as a concept, but just sick of the dour, miserable approach being successful in international football.

Can’t help but think it’d be great for football if Spain, Italy, Denmark or Belgium won it - and then the template can be actual fun football, rather than the shut-down and eventually a talented player will probably do something style of Portugal/France/England. At least Greece were giant-killers. This tournament has been a joy and it’d be good if the eventual winners reflected that.

Obviously England are gonna thrash Ukraine 5-0 now and it will serve me right for moaning. Interestered to see whether Southgate is genuinely pragmatic in the actual sense of the word, rather than it being the weird football byword for cautious/defensive - if he is an actual pragmatist, he’ll take the handbrake off against Ukraine. He should anyway.

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Also now we’ve all had a sleep can we also admit England got a bit lucky that Germany don’t have a clinical striker at the moment (not excusing Müller because it’s insane he didn’t at least hit the target, but looking squarely at you, Tim O’Wasteman)

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Assume Denmark are fairly heavy favourites for it tbh. Better squad, played better this tournament so far

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Bigger shambles

  • Germany
  • Portugal
  • France

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Yeah I guess but Czechs proved they’re not to be sniffed at putting out a much tougher Netherlands side than (no disrespect) Wales and Russia

France are the biggest bottlers/underachievers imo, and it was lovely to see.

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Oh aye they deserve to be there and are a decent side. But every England and Ukraine fan will be cheering them on in that quarter final

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Fully willing to accept luck is a necessary ingredient to progress in a tournament btw

I guess but I find that gets a bit moot at this stage as you basically need to beat anyone to win anyway. Like if the Czechs knock out an emotional Denmark as well as Netherlands they will feel they could get revenge on (presumably) England too. I know it was a dead rubber but the Czechs weren’t as bad against your lot as some would care to admit (not necessarily here) and will feel very encouraged to get another shot at it.

That all said, I’d probably rather avoid Denmark too just now

Watched the highlights from yesterday. Don’t really think anyone will be fearing England tbh. Chances can be created against them. Really looking forward to seeing a spirited Czech Republic or Denmark, if not Ukraine up against them.

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Especially if ‘having better players on the pitch’ equates to luck now

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It’s easily France, they should have sleepwalked to the final with the squad they had. Germany’s expectations were significantly lowered by never recovering from WC2018, and Portugal will be very disappointed they didn’t really even come close to defending their title but you know, fuck Ronaldo :man_shrugging:

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Don’t think England had better players on the pitch necessarily, think they were pretty evenly matched, both even had equally disappointing number 9s. The difference was England took their 2 chances that Germany didn’t

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2016 for Portugal was like 1992 for Denmark, an unexpected success when it looked like their golden generation had missed their chance (and helped by Iceland’s last minute goal against Austria propelling them into the shit half of the draw). They should just be happy for it really considering their 2014/2018/2020 showings make clear it was very much the exception

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Yup.

Germany and Portugal were slightly up and down squads who lost tight games against one of the other decent teams in the tournament.

France have hands down the best squad in Europe and chucked away a 2 goal lead in 5 minutes against a cube and his pals while the players’ parents had a scrap in the crowd.

Not even close

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