I’ve asked this question, I wouldn’t count on it being answered.

Never too many times to post this tbh

I mean I’m sure those on the end of your suggestion that they’re xenophobic or worse are too. But we’ve come a long way over the course of the tournament by having discussions on these topics and I thought there was more of an understanding between those of differing positions.

1 Like

of course it’s not the same but you don’t don’t make jokes about a nation of people on the back of a horrific incident

If he came up and asked me for directions or something I’d make the Klinsmann noise

6 Likes

England fans shouldn’t be allowed to take cocaine imo

21 Likes

Have you been to any games in Europe as an away fan?

I’ve had mates badly injured in France, Italy, Germany, Ukraine, Holland, Spain just off the top of my head.

A mate kidnapped by the police in Moscow for fucks sake.

It’s generally pretty dangerous

1 Like

This is a genuine question, I’m not stirring, but do you think the England national side’s support is an outlier compared to other national teams? Because from where I sit as a non-football fan, it’s very apparent to me that hooliganism at a club level at least is far from from an exclusively English problem.

5 Likes

Stop making these ridiculous comparisons then

No one was doing that

3 Likes

Yeah I absolutely do, I’m aware all nations have hooligans etc, it just seems to me England has a special problem with it right now specifically, in part of course due to non-stop nationalistic discourse and ongoing divisions being stoked up. I suppose in a mainstreamification of this kind of behaviour I suppose.

5 Likes

Severed posting three lion emojis as a reply to the article is literally doing that?

Don’t care that he has myself mind.

2 Likes

Which countries with similar numbers of fans and the same level of interest do you think have less of a problem? I’m not aware of it happening much in Spain, but it definitely does in Italy and France

3 Likes

I’d be genuinely interested to know whether this is true to be honest, because the sad fact is that it has definitely been even worse in the past. The question of what action has been taken by the police is also highly relevant.

6 Likes

I think it is, yes. But club football if anything is safer in England than elsewhere than Europe.(ime)

Incidentally, I haven’t been too exotic in my football attending during the years but the only place I’ve been genuinely actually scared was ninian park. And I was in the home end!

4 Likes

This was only a few months ago;

Did you really see that as being a joke about all English people? It was part of the overall discussion that’s still ongoing in this thread about England fan’s behaviour and whether it’s unique to them in comparison to other countries fans, a worthwhile discussion imo. It’s hardly some kind of gross racial slur.

3 Likes

Two months ago in Scotland.

The main connections I’m seeing here are men and football.

9 Likes

I think it’s more the entire nation’s ethical compass has been skewed in a dark direction and that probably bolsters benign seeming but ultimately harmful behaviours, specifically towards football

1 Like

Didn’t say it was a gross racial slur

that video of a paralytic England fan in France in 2016 going “everyone’s had a drink” but instead everyone’s done a line

3 Likes