#572

Weekend is utter pish

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#573

its one of his better ones but itā€™s still pretty rubbish. just quirky for the sake of it mostly

#574

I think thereā€™s some fairly amusing bits and itā€™s vaguely accessible

I watched this 90ā€™s one with Gerard Depardieu and it just reminded me how annoying he (Godard) can be

#576

I dunno, I didnā€™t find it amusing really. So many long pointless shots, and the bit where the gang refer to each other with old cinema titles to essentially allow Godard to show off what he likesā€¦urgh

Didnā€™t like his earlier stuff, donā€™t like his new stuff. WOuld be quite happy never seeing any more of his again

#577

ICE to meet you!

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#578

Iā€™d heard it a million times before but that pun still made me grin.

It also made me watch:

#579

I knew the basic premise, can imagine it freaking the casual viewer out! The final orgy scene is so bizarre.

#580

All of this I agree with Sevvy. I went to see it last night and couldnā€™t stop waffling on about it with my wife after it was over. We both really enjoyed it.

A couple of points:

  • The scene in the art gallery with the big ā€˜REVENGEā€™ print was pretty incredible. I thought that could be the filmā€™s undoing but playing that scene for laughs really worked well in showing how vacuous her life and job are. Kind of like Ford showing his hand and then snapping it back.

  • The scene where Jake refers to himself as weak, as Amy Adams walks away from him you see the muscle car next to him in a car park. Thought that was quite neat, obviously Edward was piecing his novel together as early as here.

  • Think the ending was pretty much perfect. You realise that sheā€™s got to go back to her terrifically sad life knowing full well that her husband is having an affair and that her overbearing Mother was right and that Hutton is a weaker man than Edward.

What did you think about the phone call to her daughter? I like the way she was framed in exactly the same way as the daughter is found in the book. Thereā€™s multiple references to Susan being ā€˜tiredā€™ and ā€˜not sleepingā€™ so I wondered whether this happened at all. In many ways it reminded me of Mulholland Drive in that respect.

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#581

Nooo Jezza

That scene in the art gallery is one of the worst things Iā€™ve seen on screen all year. So out of place.

The daughter bit still confuses me a bit really. Some of the timings didnā€™t seem to make sense (like when was she born?) and she is never mentioned again

#582

Yeah itā€™s very jarring, probably one of the most jarring scenes in the film but it worked for me.

I think that bit is maybe a hallucination. Potentially itā€™s the daughter she aborted and sheā€™s feeling guilt and remorse, coupled with the fact that itā€™s mentioned she isnā€™t sleeping numerous times adds to that. The way sheā€™s framed on the bed ties in with that in my eyes.

#583

The daughter is Arnie Hammerā€™s, itā€™s just a bluff.

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#584

Is that explicitly explained at any point? Did I miss something?

#585

Amy Adams isnā€™t an unreliable narrator. Itā€™s just a way to try and stick the knife in for the reveal of the abortion. It was laughable, like the entirety of the non-book sections.

#586

[spoiler]Nah I disagree entirely. Why have that scene in there, why have her framed in the same way? She looks around 19 years old. Why include the daughter in the book at all?

Of course sheā€™s an unreliable narrator, the bit with the phone when she sees something on the screen is hallucinatory, no? [/spoiler]

#587

at the weekend i watched:

Hypernormalisation - chatted about it elsewhere and while not myfavourite Curtis doc, there was still some revelatory stuff in it.

Before the Flood - not particularly great climate doc but good to get an update of where the world is at with it. pretty bleak how much of the senate in the US denies climate change.

Citizenfour - only just got round to this, not a great doc but good to get more background on the snowden situation. Love his assertion that as bad as the NSA are, theyā€™re nothing compared to GCHQ. Great stuff.

Pretty bleak viewing all told.

#588

arrival - well good

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#589

I actually agree with @lastdino but not their reaction to it. I think the child is from her current relationship, itā€™s part of her shittiness to Edward, the framing is because she is visualising the novel, not real life, itā€™s sort-of coincidental. The bit with the phone is in real life, not the novel, a personally emotionally investing novel and lack of sleep could feasibly make one hallucinate something like that. The other reading is sheā€™s gone full Tonto and made literally everything up including Edward but thatā€™s too much I think

#590

Also the daughter in the book is fiction, she never existed so Edward is making her exist and/or heā€™s ā€œgetting revengeā€ on her too

#591

I dont know how to use spoiler tags (if anyone could tell me then that would be great) but

I read it that the Aaron Taylor-Johnson is meant to represent Amy Adams character, and by killing the daughter in the novel, he is representing the ā€˜killingā€™ of his daughter with the abortion

maybe

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#592

Use [ spoiler ] [/ spoiler] without spaces.

And yeah that works too but ultimately it all comes down to Edward as novelist