#244

I think they wouldn’t offer for free or £1 because it would be hugely expensive. Because of that, maybe they feel they can’t advise everyone get them when the minimum cost from outside the nhs is going to be £10 as it is like a two tier health system. “People with money, you should get one, poor people, lets hope you don’t get sick!”. They could maybe still advise if you can to get one to do so, but again that seems a bit problematic…
Am interested in the reasoning though

#245

I don’t think anyone has done this in this thread.

#246

I maybe insinuated the second part a little bit…

#247

You cannot say you’re arguments are based on the very few number of people who post here. Convincing just us to get flu jabs isn’t going to make the majority of the UK wake up and realise we all need flu jabs.

#248

Was never my intention

#249

no?

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#250

But it is selfish?

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#251

I think the argument people are making is that if you’re in full possession of all the facts etc, it could be considered selfish not to have one if you have the financial means to do so in order to help protect the general population.

I completely agree that the NHS guidance says that there’s no need for people who aren’t in an at risk group and are otherwise healthy to receive the vaccine. I disagree with the way they’re communicating this, but I imagine it’s not lazy/by chance and that they have studied the impact of specifically targeting at risk groups with their policy statements vs something more broad brush (even with the caveat that some people will have to pay).

The information is out there for ANYONE to access, but like you and @meowington have pointed out there is no driver for people to proactively consider having the flu vaccine unless they’re at risk.

The pro vaccine chat on here has (I think) been aimed at filling a void that clearly exists. No, not everyone in the UK will read it, but if you have, and haven’t previously considered having a flu vaccine hopefully the rationale is, at least a tiny bit, clearer.

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#252

What if you can’t afford it? Are you still selfish?

#253

:+1::+1::+1:

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#254

People have literally said people don’t do it because they don’t care

In my view it’s not a lack of care, it’s a lack of knowledge.

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#255

So what are we doing here then?
It’s going to take a lot more than just an internet message board to convince a large number of people who are not in a high risk group to get a flu jab.
That information is not out there. No one is being urged to do it by NHS or Boots or Superdrug or whatever. No one is doing it.

#256

In context, that post is assuming people have read the thread to that point, which takes lack of knowledge out of the picture.
Obviously on a national level that’s the bigger issue, yes.

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#257

Yeah but I’m not arguing with the masses, that was never my intention. My intention, as it is every year is just to try to convince people on this board that it’s a good idea and to correct some of the wrong statements being made.

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#258

i can confirm it’s the Big Sally Cee.

#259

This, by the way, is literally the best thing I’ve ever read on here. :slight_smile:

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#260

people listen to public bodies (probably) that have the remit of advice and prevention. If the NHS is non-commital, or not directly advising people get vaccinated, then understandably, even when presented with evidence from people experienced in the area, people will question if they should get it

#261

Me too. I’ve never seen people speak about it so passionately outside of these DiS walls.

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#262

Clearly not. I am talking about the people for whom 7quid (a round of toast or two?) isn’t going to render them homeless.
It’s also an investment, as proper flu can keep you off work for 2 weeks. SO if people are in jobs which only pay SSP, then they will soon be out of pocket.

#263

I’ve never come across anybody irl that doesn’t have a flu jab.