#346

Some of the views on here have come from a place of ignorance. Just because you don’t personally know anybody who has had a flu jab, then that must mean that nobody has them, and there must be no good reason for doing so just because it isn’t free on the nhs? And you have a Dr who specialises in viruses and immunology on the thread trying to explain why, very patiently imo, and yet that is ‘shaming’. Oh my word.

#348

If you’re saying someone is selfish or a dickhead or a cunt for not getting an OPTIONAL jab, then that is 100% shaming. There are no two ways about it.

#349

no one has ever asked me to get one!

no one has ever suggested i get one

I very nearly didn’t click on this thread because it sounded boring as fuck and if i didn’t i still would never have known i was “supposed” to get one

#350

My points have been exactly that. How was I to know you’re an expert? How was I to know this should be the done thing for everyone and there are a small number of thickos on here who don’t understand that? Who is supposed to be telling me to get one? Someone on a forum who happens to be an expert in that? That’s not right. Most people do not have access to that info.

This is what is causing me frustration. I’m sorry if I’ve offended you by what I’ve said but I am just an average person who hasn’t been living under a rock and I didn’t know non-high risk people were out there getting flu jabs all the time.

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#351

Yes it is an optional jab. the option is to have it and thereby reduce the risk of contracting and passing on a deadly virus to a vulnerable person or baby who is too young to be vaccinated. That is the selfless option.

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#352

Balonz Pharma Inc.
“Balonz is not traditional in the UK”

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#353

To clarify, I wasn’t suggesting you were incapable of reading a primary reference (sorry if it read like that), just that posting a tonne of efficacy data here wasn’t the most appropriate forum for it (whilst acknowledging that you’d noted that no-one had posted any evidence).

I guess I was rationalizing why this was the case, and sharing a link to how the ACIP come to make evidence-based recommendations for the US. I think their system is pretty robust. The NHS/NICE do similar things but (obvs) have massive funding constraints that impinge on decisions that could otherwise be driven purely by clinical need.

Of course, reservations about applying US recommendations here is understandable. I hoped to explain why I thought their guidance was relevant.

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#354

Right that went well huh? It’s 4:30am here and I have to be up soon so I think I’m done here. See you all in autumn 2019 folks!

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#355

You’re too polite to post here.

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#356

Yes, I broadly agree and am in the pro vaccine camp for everyone. Appreciate you taking the time jp

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#357

Your repeated comments about what is or isn’t selfish in this thread are completely unhelpful and I expect this terminology is what is winding people up. Plenty of previous posters have said that they did not know they were “supposed” to get the vaccine. That is not selfish, just as your experience of getting the vaccine is not selfless. It is simply your experience. My experience is that the vaccine is not on my radar at all as the NHS messaging states that it is for people other than me.

#358

I know, I’m sorry for being a dick. I just get frustrated that this has never been mentioned to me in all of my 29 years but everyones sneaking off to flu jabs behind my back. It’s more the whole “holier than thou” duh you bunch of pricks we’ve all been getting flu jabs and you’re just a selfish cunt angle that has annoyed me.

The funny thing is, I am fairly sure I should have a flu jab this year to protect a high risk parent.

#359

still haven’t got an answer as to why the nhs isn’t telling me to get it done

not pay for it, not launch a nationwide campaign about it, just like a suggestion on their website

#360

Just for reference:

#361

It’s not even that. They explicitly say not everyone needs one.

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#362

If you’re not in a risk group you don’t need one but it will still be beneficial. And it will be beneficial to others.

Right I’m definitely going to sleep now.

#363

Anyway, I might get a flu jab next week.

Thanks scientists.

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#364

(serious question) - What is the benefit of me getting one to protect a high risk person who hasn’t bothered to get theirs done?

#365

you’re helping that person out. and then saving NHS resources to look after the high risk person who may then have serious complications

#366

you’ll be £10 down
you might get sick for a few days
you have to spend 15 minutes in a boots