But they’re not helping themselves out!

There are lots of people who can’t have it done though

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No, but you could argue that about like a million things! It doesn’t mean you shouldn’t do it if you feel motivated to! It’s not completely altruistic anyway as it could stop you feeling like death for a week as well. Just with added benefits for other people

so i might miss an excuse to take a week off work?

It’s not so much about the people who ‘haven’t bothered’ but using my previous analogy I’d still be happy for my blood to go to someone who ‘hasn’t bothered’ to do it themselves.

It’s more about

  • immunodeficient people
  • people with cancer
  • people who’ve had transplants
  • young/old people who the vaccine might not work as well in
  • people who’ve had the vaccine but for whatever reason it hasn’t worked.

Herd immunity creates a buffer around these people.

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still don’t know what this has to do with cows

VACcines started off in cows. Plus the theory was probably modelled in livestock.

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Have you missed the vivid descriptions of what flu is actually like in this thread?

It just seems a bit odd that those who should get the vaccine don’t and the onus (which isn’t really put out there) is on other people to protect those who haven’t done their part as well.

No, you’re putting the onus on them, not me.

week off’s a week off

What? Sorry I don’t follow.

I mean it seems its up to healthy people to get the vaccine to protect unhealthy people who should get the vaccine but didn’t.

Enjoy shitting your pants and hallucinating that you’re watching Pendulum at Reading

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^^^

My girlfriend does get vaccinated. She is still put at higher risk of catching flu and having life-threatening complications by coming into contact with healthy people who have not been vaccinated.

I’m really not following.

Never mind

You’re making an argument based on people who ‘don’t bother’ and I’m saying that the argument isn’t about them.

think she’s saying if they’re at risk and don’t bother then fuck them
but you should try and help the people that can’t get it

I’m not making an argument, I’m just trying to understand why people who are at high risk of getting the flu aren’t getting the flu jab and it’s up to other people to get the flu jab to protect those even though there is nothing out there to say this is something people should be doing.