Everyone is always banging on about them though therefore they must be bad :wink:

Yeah maybe cos it always comes down to dodgy drugs that I think we should just have normal gigs instead

Not sure if you’re trolling, but I don’t think bands playing festivals are that shallow at all. Festivals are also a unique chance for bands to hang out with other musicians they might never get the chance to see otherwise.

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Well it’s highly speculative cos who knows how gigs would change to adapt in a world without festivals but rich people using their power and resources to organise folks into one place and justify it to the bands as exposure feels wrong to me.

Always freaks my nut out when I see someone with the exact same name as me (even though there are thousands of us)

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This isn’t what independent festivals are. And the big corporate ones pay bands much more (because nobody wants to be there)

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I had tickets for Fflam in 2007 and that had some shadiness going on before it was postponed (“torrential weather”) and eventually cancelled two months later. Can’t find the eFestivals forum discussions on it anymore, but even before the postponement, there were plenty of red flags that were brought up.

General chat about the morality of festivals aside I’d quite like to watch this documentary.

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in my experience of playing festivals you pretty much always get a much more significant amount of pay that a one off gig or an individual date on a tour. This would probably be the case for every band on the bill bar the headliners on a main stage (you’re talking Foo Fighters, U2, Coldplay etc who could sell out stadiums on their own) and perhaps the ones below them.

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At least this happening will mean no-one will ever try a last minute fest on an island without the infrastructure ever again?

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Barry Hogan watches this, gets jealous and releases a statement on Twitter saying ATP is cancelled again even though there wasn’t one scheduled.

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Hulu doc is here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kih06l3EB4k

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The way he says crayon in this is really annoying

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why is his mum a computer

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enjoying hulu’s different take, more magnisis

I am going to watch it tonight in bed

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think the Hulu one is better at explaining what went wrong

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When that persuader dickhead with the selfie stick was running around with his mates pissing on mattresses because he didn’t want neighbours? What? Fuck

I’m convinced he was lying to look like Mr big man on the telly. He was probably just trying his hardest not to cry.

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