Greta Van Fleet

was just about to paste that paragraph in here. v. solid review and absolutely nails the problem i was trying to articulate above.

Yeah it made me think about Mark Fishers bits on Joy Division where he says they were ‘reflexive modernists’ - looking to the future forever, unwilling to repeat what had happened in recent pop culture ect. Now those bands will be on bandcamp while mid teir professionals listen toGreta Van Fleet on their Alexa while barbecuing on a summer afternoon

Yup, this nails it.

Normally find really bad reviews a bit unnecessary, but this feels kind of necessary. Got to say, though, i think its funny that a pitchfork writer is accusing a band of lacking self-awareness while simultaneously giving something a score of 1.6 out of 10, like he’s some kind of musical forensic scientist.

Pitchfork scores are aggregates of a bunch of their staff rather than the reviewer picking an oddly precise number, I think

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I do wonder with bands like this, though, how much of it just starts out with a bunch of young kids just wanting to play some old music that they like, and suddenly they find themselves in a situation where they suddenly have to be sincere and committed to something that maybe was just supposed to be a bit of fun?

I dunno. I sort of feel that maybe the industry they’re in has now put them in the position of being a unit-shifting ‘band’, and it probably never started out as anything so cynical?

Benefit of the doubt? Still pish though. :-/

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I heard someone make a good point the other day. How come it’s ok to blatantly rip off Sabbath, but anyone who tries to be Zeppelin are instantly regarded as trash?

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Is it?

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Ah fair play, that makes sense. Ihad an image of one bloke trying to decide if 1.5% was just too harsh.

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There’s so many second rate doom bands that get glowing reviews from cool websites.

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I do find it a little weird that theres some genres where it’s ok to just be a ‘genre band,’ and you can just rehash stuff without pushing the envelope and its fine, but bands who do stuff like hair metal and rockabilly are ridiculed, but I think most decent review sites are pretty fair about it.

(in no way is this post endorsing 2018 rockabilly bands, please don’t permaban me)

I think it’s weird that we still get street teamers trying to push major label garbage on here.

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The aggregates are just for the big reviews, best new music types. They sort of editorially pick a score and someone writes a review to match it, I believe. Doubt Greta Van Fleet got that treatment, though was probably an editorial decision to really lump it to them

I think the dirgey, fuzzy element of Sabbath’s sound is key to why they spawned so many copyists though. It’s easy to make it sound so burned out and despondent. Hence - all of doom metal. Whereas if you slow down Zep’s stuff in a similar manner you just get the blues.

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Fuck me, what a load of shite. That Napoleon Dynamite frontman screeching like fucking Cartman is a total mess. Couldnt get past the first chorus…this is worse than Jet…

Because Sabbath were good

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And massively original. If you copy Led Zep you’re basically doing a copy of a pastiche of the blues.

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:astonished:

Zeppelin are great. Yes they stole all their material. Yes Jimmy Page is a very bad person. But still great.

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