That illustration, fucking hell

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I wonder how David Gray feels when he hears Babylon very pointedly and tellingly used as the background music :sweat_smile:

Probably just glad for the pence on the PRS cheque these days.

Is the Guardian site down completely for everyone or just me?

Edit - just seen the other thread

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can’t stop thinking about this. Sociopathic.

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It’s not just the event, but everything he does afterwards too, including making himself the centre of the story he sells to the Guardian.

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Might just be me being a Sunday morning miseryguts, but describing Ocean Rebellion as a downside in an article about the benefits of seeing massive police and US marine presence just got me a bit.

Also had to double check they hadn’t accidentally included two photos of the same family

Something amazing about the end where he briefly touches on her probably having arthritis the rest of her life and then ends quickly on some glib “but we could laugh and that’s special” #livelaughlove sentiment :joy:

I knew people (doesn’t feel right writing ‘friends’ here) who used to do this kind of shit, and as someone who is a bit physically awkward i used to hate it.

Good ol’ lads bantz. Gotta love it.

Might have to reread this, but I don’t think this really hits the mark. I don’t think the guy would identify as “a lad”, he’s just incredibly self-obsessed and oblivious to other people.

Yeah, fair, maybe not in this particular incident. Just to me at least, it was a behaviour firmly routed in ladz bantz type behaviour 20 odd years ago.

I think maybe there is also a lot of behaviours which are learnt when we are of school age which are then hard to unpick for many years later, no matter how we identify ourselves.

Also, “incredibly self obsessed and oblivious to other people” = LAD :wink:

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I think reading the accounts of those two it seems clear they’re both rather odd people. The thing that baffles me is why they’d want to draw all this attention to themselves.

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Well she has effectively written both articles, and is a journalist. She wants to make some money and fair enough really. Wonder if this is her incredibly sly revenge on him - making him “that guy who broke his friends leg” for the rest of his life

Ah that makes a bit more sense.

Journalist, Olympic wieightlifter, owner of the world’s most broken leg. That’s quite a CV!

Yeah I read this and basically saw a lot of the type of stuff that went on at university. I got a bad injury to my hand that lingered on for months as a result of someone hilariously slamming a pub toilet door shut as I was walking through it. Guys don’t really grow up until they get to about 25, if ever.

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Dunno. Would she have done it to him? Would any women you’ve ever met have done that?

That’s not really the point. I wasn’t suggesting that what he did wasn’t something “a lad” would do, I was suggesting overall he doesn’t seem like he fits the general stereotype.

For instance

I had brought a book of mini plays that we were performing to each other as we walked, just for fun.

fwiw my personal opinion of the stereotype hi fits into is: twat.