#2704

technically, i suppose. fair cop.

#2705

A 4-1-4-7-8 “Index” according to Chilesy!

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#2706

It’s why most earnings research uses median instead of mean, as a much more meaningful average

#2707

Well if they’d used median there then it would by definition have obscured the point they were trying to make.

#2708

Oh aye. The reason deliveroo have published mean rather than median is because its somewhat misleading and makes deliveroo look better. An independent report would have used median.
It’s a good thing for the article to pull up

#2709
#2710

No one posted this one yet?

They’re just happy to paint someone on a £50K wage who works 18 hours a day as earning less than a MacDonald’s worker without comment?!

#2711

Eh?

If someone worked 108 hours a week at McDonald’s they’d get £50k a year

#2712

I dunno, they seem to think 50K at 18 hours can be compared? Fuck em

#2713

It can. 18 hours per week 6 days a week for ÂŁ50k a year is ÂŁ7.63 per hour.

If an Uber driver was doing that it’d be seen as exploitative and dangerous

#2714

@moderators guess this thread belongs in the news board now? Discussion of a news site, even if not a news event per se.

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#2715

Yeah but my point is that it’s not reason to do that comparison when you’re on 50K. You picked that job to make a stack if cash. You have no life but in a few years you’ll be doing well.

Is it fucked up? Absolutely.

But comparing it to McDonald’s workers is sophistry.

#2716

The main point is the hours. Those are not healthy hours to work whatever you do. The pay per hour is just a way of highlighting that.

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#2717

They don’t tell people they’ll be expected not to wash or eat during recruitment.

You start it’s hell but if you quit you’re a washout at the most prestigious place in the market you work in and destroy your future prospects. You stay you get ill you still have to work through it or you’re done.
Get 2 years experience and leave and you’ll get a job somewhere half decent if you’re mental or physical health breaks before that you’re done.

It’s absolutely fucking brutal. My cousin did it. It’s not little posh boys they pick up they target working class high grade science grads from good Uni’s and try to mold them into brutal capitalists or break them.

Luckily she spotted an out and got one of the roles split between the uk and the states meaning the travel could be down time. She still only lasted 2 years. It’s a constant churn

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#2718

They do sign a contract opting out of the 48 hour week.

In my view it is shitting on minimum wage workers to make that comparison.

I’m not saying the banking workers aren’t in a bad situation but they’re still earning a very high wage even at the base rate.

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#2719

Yes or they don’t have the job and do you really think any of these people have got the resources to fight Goldman Sachs in an unfair dismissal case.

They’re getting paid less the living wage for the hours worked and the company they work for will Bill their time in the thousands a day.

It’s exploitation.

Re-read the article and look at the health bits.

#2720

yeah totally. Why make the comparison? It’s a gross comparison to make.

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#2721

I get what you’re saying, that these people aren’t in the same boat as the McDonald’s workers, but I think pitting the two groups against each other like this is unhelpful. The comparison highlights that they’re not getting highly paid compared to the amount they work, and is impactful because people understand McDonald’s workers to be low paid.

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#2722

Not disputing the health and exploitation , I am specifically against writing tone deaf comparisons wages like that. 18 hours wouldn’t be alright if they were on 90K but to frame it like a per hour rate isn’t right.

#2723

I’m not pitting them against each other, I’m just saying writing that comparison is crass IMO.