I’m sure those people would have been awful no matter what the guitar, but I think there is also a particular thing around these styles of guitar, you know how some people get really possessive of their interests and hobbies, like when a band cross over to mainstream success rather than be happy about it they complain that they are losing ‘their’ band and new fans don’t get it, it was kind of like that.

I remember any time a brand would come out with a similar offset style people were worried that this would be the one that would make them become mainstream, so when finally an official affordable version came out it threatened people and they probably felt the need to put them down.

its weird some people acting like they had discovered some hidden gem in a jazzmaster or jaguar, when really they were already iconic guitars of grunge/alternative/indie rock and it was only through some weird conservatism/lack of understanding of the market on fenders part that they hadn’t made them more widely available (like so many people would have wanted a guitar like Kurt Cobain’s, they just weren’t affordable, and then some of the people who did get them thought of it as a sign of their individuality rather than a sign of ability to spend a lot of money on a guitar, and so got really elitist when new models came out). but yeah, guitar snobs are terrible

Kind of odd to see that. I mean I recall how much people who liked Fenders would look for genuine US ones or older ones that had good pedigree but otherwise it always seemed to be about how nice the guitar played. I never spent more than £400 on a guitar, which was partly because I couldn’t face the idea of anything more expensive than that being taken to gigs and possibly lost.

That said, I seem to recall a Jaguar or a Jazzmaster were pricier than most, maybe because Squier either didn’t make them or made versions that were terrible.

What I like about your Jagmaster is that it has humbuckers and a decent bridge. Before I realised I just didn’t need a third guitar, I did covet the Fender Jaguar HH for this reason:


Basically a Les Paul meets a Jaguar. Looked so nice…

This is now the Guitar thread

Have you read his latest, Reservoir 13?

Oh God I love Richard Yates.

Not yet. I’m having a Philip Pullman revival then will start on some new stuff

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Ah okay. Just in case you haven’t, I heartily recommend (to others in this thread too) Even the Dogs…it’s a book about “down and outs” in a fictional UK city (which is pretty obviously Nottingham)…which is probably the warmest book about people struggling I’ve read in a long while. Should be required reading for every Conservative MP.

I’ve read that one :slight_smile: and This isn’t the sort of thing… I think there may be one other novel I’ve not read. I follow him on twitter, he seems like a thoroughly decent chap

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Yeah, his second novel “So Many Ways to Begin”…I think it’s probably his least ambitious (and therefore probably least heralded) book, but it’s still beautifully written. Very basically it’s about the lifespan of a couple who survive through mental health and adoption revelations, amongst other things.

Also, I’ve not read Reservoir 13 yet…but it’s on my shelf, practically screaming at me to read it

Actually I think I have read that one! I didn’t love the anthology but his novels have all been excellent. He’s a beautiful writer.

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