I saw a lot of people asking this question after the first episode and I thought fair enough maybe they didn’t explain it but then I remembered they had that whole scene about the gyptain lad becoming a man because his daemon had stopped changing and settled in the shape of a hawk, WATCH TV BETTER

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There was also the conversation between Lyra and her friend about it, too.

TBH I’d just say to @zxcvbnm2 to read the fucking book. Based on what else he likes on here he should enjoy it and it’s a really fast read…

Been dipping in and out. Besides I’ve got you guys to fill in any gaps.

Books are for nerds.

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Not really feeling it so far, which is a pity. Really loved the books (not quite so much the third one)!

Just feels a bit slight to me?

Enjoying it so far, although the bit with the journalist was very silly.

JOURNALIST: Hello Lyra I have quite literally just met you and now I have given you a piece of vital plot information at great personal risk.

LYRA: Seems legit, after all, I’ve been able to trust every adult I’ve met so far, so why wouldn’t you - a stranger - be any different.

JOURNALIST: I am dead now.

It’s been well over a decade since I read the books so no idea if that bit’s as slight in the books as it is here, but it was quite jarring. Still, the quicker they smash through the early stuff the quicker we get giant polar bears.

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I haven’t read them in 17 years (17 years!). It has made me want to go back and read the books. There are definitely bits Northern Lights that I have completely forgotten I don’t remember the journalist at all. From what I remember it Mrs Coulter got angrier and angrier and then Lyra did a runner

I haven’t seen last night’s episode yet but I read that bit of the book last week, the reporter speaks to Lyra for a bit then Coulter sees her and kicks her out of the party and tells her she’ll never work in this town again.

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Reasonable departure from the books I guess is Mrs Coulter telling Lyra that Asriel is her father. Reckon this might be a good choice actually, it always felt like a bit of an exposition dump the Gyptians telling her who both her parents are and their history all in one go.

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he seems like a good guy
:sunglasses:

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eh apart from that time he pretended not to know what “that whole trans argument” is about

Still finding this a chore. I’m sure it is much more rewarding if you have read the books, but for someone who hasn’t I think they have crammed into two episodes far too many plot lines and characters. It’s a confusing mess tbqh

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think the film’s cast was way better than the show’s cast
mcavoy as asriel doesn’t do it for me at all

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ftfm

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Yeah, Lyra aside, I think the GC casting was as good as it gets (Sam Elliot as Lee Scoresby, how do you improve on that?)

When I read the books as a kid I always imagined Asriel as Revolver Ocelot from Metal Gear Solid :man_shrugging:

Revolver_Ocelot

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I know the film seems to have been much maligned by book fans, but it was a pretty enjoyable romp with (compared to this series) a rich and convincing world of humans and daemons (noting I haven’t read the books Mrs FC has been vocally seething at the two episodes so far).

The daemon count was a bit better last night, but given the scene in the car with the journo, I was pretty surprised to see Lyra chuck pillows at Pantalaimon when he was a butterfly / moth - could have had some pretty serious consequences. I also felt that pulling the story into contemporary England in our world totally dissolved the magic (too early) if that’s what happens in the books.

TBF I can imagine someone being completely out of touch and just getting to understand there was a battle going on once it was in full swing and not understanding why two groups he considered progressive were having and dort of tension

That said, I haven’t seen more than that one Tweet and have zero idea about how much he pays attention to generally so…

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